2006-Sep-18
The trouble with Islam - part 2

The trouble with Islam - part 1

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ISLAM......a false religion, for a false people.


Topics on this page...
ISLAM is not about 'good works' - but about creating  political  FEAR - example, this link shows how ISLAM treats the surviving victims of the Dec, 2004 Tsunami
Taqiyya - the
'sanctified' deceit, practiced against non-believers - to promote the 'Cause of Allah' [...the spread of ISLAM]
Pushing_the_boundaries - the ISLAMISATION technique, of slow and steady 'pressure', a wearing down attrition
Kuffar 'magic' TRUTH pill - read my explanation, of who the Kuffar REALLY are.
Jihad - the 'struggle', until the whole world submits to ISLAM
Muslim logic explained - explaining to how Jihad against the infidel, is 'defensive',   ....when Kuffar resist the muslim prerogative [to bring ISLAMIC rule to Kuffar lands].
Un-ISLAMIC 'muslims' are not safe from the Jihadists.
'Why do they hate us?'  .....because our existence is an 'insult' to ISLAM.
Dhimmitude - "...Allah has made the infidels spineless."
'One Cannot Be a Muslim, and Secular,' - an ISLAMIST in Turkey declared, in a speech 10 yrs ago! [...and he should know, this ISLAMIST is the current Turkish PM!]
Muslim sedition in the UK - goes unchallenged, unpunished, by UK authorities. Why?
and more...
Open sedition in the UK, in London, June, 2007
"....Islam will govern Britain!", "....Queen Elizabeth, go to hell!"
".....Blair will "go to the Middle East as an envoy, and he'll come back in a box. Inshallah."
".....Make no mistake. The British government, the queen, the MPs in this country, they are enemies to you, enemies to Allah and enemies to the Muslims."
Open sedition in the UK.
What response from UK authorities?
We are still waiting!...

Sharia law in UK is 'unavoidable' - says the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, February 2008
'Muslim logic', now adopted by AC, Dr Rowan Williams,     Equality with non-muslims = 'discrimination'
This Sharia example is not a 'joke', or sarcasm on my part.  -  An example of Sharia law in action.


The UK 2006 - Read this damning assessment, of where we are heading, and why! - ONE OF THE MOST DAMNING NEWS REPORTS ON THIS SITE

"The naivete of American "counterinsurgency experts" is breathtaking...."

ISLAMIC_'victimhood' - a tactic, only used where ISLAM's influence is still weak [otherwise the 'host' country gets street protests, riots, and acts of organised violence]
There is very little [factual] reporting by mainstream media [MSM], which is prepared to actually identify the 'immigrant youths' responsible for the violence and sedition as muslims.
"I know how these terrorists are inspired" - The account of a UK, ex-Jihadi. He talks of the 'problem' of ISLAM in the West.   ....Yes, we HAVE got a problem!.
ISLAM is a failed culture - When in power, ISLAM'S violence and lustful hate, sows its own eventual self destruction - like a CANCER destroying a host?
ISLAM, is cultural apartheid at best, it is ABSOLUTE cultural oppression at worst - Majority, political ISLAM, where it is found, is not a culture of co-existence - with 'others'.
Abrogation of Koran verses - how the deceit of Muhammad against muslims, now translates to the deception of the Kuffar by muslims.
Truce & covenants ...with covenant breakers - we should not make 'fair-weather' covenants with, or appease [as we are currently!], the Jihadists - ever!
A solution to ISLAMIC inspired terrorism??? - Expulsion from the West, of all those who endorse ISLAMIC Jihad,     ....this does encompass all devout [self-declared] muslims.
All devout muslims are cultural bigots - All devout muslims are cultural bigots, who insist that muslims are superior to [all] non-muslims.
All devout muslims are cultural bigots, who use their 'religion' [which is a death cult] to justify their wanton abuse and murder of un-ISLAMIC persons.
Devout muslims say that they get authority for such cultural views from the Koran and Hadith.      ....and this is true!
Are you a 'RACIST' ? - Are you being called a 'RACIST' [when you are not], because you 'point the finger' at muslim [ISLAM inspired] violence?
The 'vilify your critic', tactic is commonly used by violent muslim thugs [Jihadists] - this is just another  lying  way they 'fight for Allah'.
How to counter the 'prejudice', 'racism', 'intolerance', 'discrimination', tags [pick one!] thrown at non-muslims [critical of ISLAM], by the Jihadists?
You could respond, by pointing to the truth - It is they themselves, muslims, who are psychotic bigots! [see the link!]
more on another page...
About REAL Racism 2 - An account of life in Saudi Arabia ...for poor, foreign, black, non-ARAB, muslims.
A catalogue of all manner of exploitation and abuse of muslims,  ....by muslims.
Accusations of the exploitation and abuse of non-ARAB muslims in Saudi Arabia,  ....by ARAB muslims.
From its inception ISLAM has been the same, NOTHING has changed. - ISLAM is philosophically, and morally, so weak, that it cannot [will not!] sustain, or accept any criticism.


Some further articles, referenced on this page...
Ignorance is Strength; Freedom is Slavery; Islam is Peace  ....accounts of rampant, unrestrained, flourishing, ISLAM
Articles reflecting the West's 'cringe' in the face of ISLAMISATION
Articles_relating to a feigned ISLAMIC_'victimhood'
Articles_reflecting_resistance_to_the_ISLAMISATION
Articles on the 'radicalisation' of muslim youth [often in Kuffar nations]

...more topics here, Home



Is Islam a peaceful religion?

So is ISLAM peaceful?
No, an ISLAMIC society, under sharia law, is not 'peaceful' towards apostasy [death], adopting 'Western' values / lifestyle [lashes and or death], even muslim women who get raped by muslim men, can be accused, and be convicted, of 'sexual immorality' [death] unless they can produce 4 male, muslim, witnesses to the rape - of course.
If this last item [above] was not so serious [RAPE - 4 male, muslim, witnesses required to testify to the rape], you could almost smile and say, yes, that this was really only a sketch from a Monty Python comedy about aspects of a human society pre the middle ages.

Also, the testimony of a Kuffar has no weight in an ISLAMIC [Sharia] court.
And a Kuffar is prohibited from testifying against a muslim [because in the eyes of muslims, muslims are superior], so, no contest.
In any dispute with those who are 'un-ISLAMIC', the muslim wins!
Yes, this is the world ISLAM wants to bring to us, and muslims call this, peace and justice?

The Witness of Zimmis
Zimmis cannot testify against Muslims. They can only testify against other Zimmis or Musta'min. Their oaths are not considered valid in an Islamic court. According to the Shari`a, a Zimmi is not even qualified to be under oath. Muraghi states bluntly, "The testimony of a Zimmi is not accepted because Allah - may He be exalted - said: `God will not let the infidels (kafir) have an upper hand over the believers'."
http://www.answering-islam.de/Main/NonMuslims/rights.htm

See also, this short accurate 'characterisation' of ISLAM.
"ISLAM.....Furthermore, its laws grant legal and economic rights according to each person’s religion, and it gives Muslims political power over non-Muslims."


More 'light' on the history of Dhimmis under ISLAM....

December 4, 2007
Fjordman: Why We Should Oppose an Independent Kosovo
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019030.php


The treatment of Christians in 'Palestine'....

December 4, 2007
Christian population in Palestinian-controlled areas could disappear in 15 years
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019027.php

This tongue-in-cheek, comment by Celsius caught my eye....

The Christians are only leaving because they are racist islamophobic bigots who refuse to live in peace with their muslim neighbours.
Or words to that effect will be penned by some leftist apologist dhimmi.
Posted by: Celsius at December 4, 2007 12:36 PM
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019027.php#c480866



8 September 2006
Making waves

Pakistani rape victim's BBC blog generates unwelcome worldwide attention
But they are not all positive. Some - a significant minority - speak of Mukhtar Mai's disservice to the image of Pakistan, and the unbalanced view she gives of rural life.
"All of us sympathise with what happened to you. Everyone feels bad about that. Please now try to forget and stay at home, and don't make us a laughing-stock in the world," says one writer.

Another is equally outspoken: "What a shame! Are women in Europe and elsewhere not raped every day? The way certain Western organisations have given prominence to Mai in their reports - to me, it's a conspiracy to humiliate Pakistan.
"I accept that Mai has suffered; but I am against the things she did afterwards, exposing such incidents is really wrong, when the Pakistani government is trying to provide justice. She should stop it right now."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5323858.stm


and...
15 September 2006
Pakistan's rape reform woes
Pakistan's government has put a controversial women's rights bill on hold, throwing into turmoil efforts to reform hardline Islamic laws on rape.
In Pakistan, rape is dealt with under Islamic laws known as the Hudood Ordinances. These criminalise all sex outside marriage.
So, under Hudood, if a rape victim fails to present four male witnesses to the crime, she herself could face punishment.
This has made it almost impossible to prosecute rape cases.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5346968.stm


and...
Vendetta Rapes Continue as Pakistan Resists Change
By SALMAN MASOOD
Published: October 14, 2006
KABIRWALA, Pakistan — Pursuing justice is not easy for a woman in Pakistan, not if the crime is rape. Ghazala Shaheen knows.

http://travel2.nytimes.com/2006/10/14/world/asia/14pakistan.html?fta=y
http://pierretristam.com/Bobst/library/wf-404.htm


and...
15 November 2006
Pakistan votes to amend rape laws
Pakistan's national assembly has voted to amend the country's strict Sharia laws on rape and adultery.
.....Pakistan's religious parties called the new legislation "a harbinger of lewdness and indecency in the country", and against the strictures of the Koran and Sharia law.
They have threatened nationwide protests over the revised bill.
Addressing parliament on Wednesday, the leader of the six-party MMA Islamic alliance, Maulana Fazlur Rahman, said the bill would "turn Pakistan into a free-sex zone".
"Existing laws are correct and should be maintained... The changes are not in line with Islamic teaching."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6148590.stm


and...
Muslims demand rape law reverse
Bruce Loudon
December 02, 2006
ONLY 10 days after Pakistan's military-led Government reformed the country's medieval rape and adultery laws, Islamabad appeared poised for a major backflip on the issue yesterday in an effort to pacify Islamic fundamentalists who have signed a fatwa against the historic changes.
Hardline Pakistani religious leaders have labelled the reforms "un-Islamic, immoral and unconstitutional" and evidence of "Western values infiltrating society".
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20857109-2703,00.html


and...
Shari'ah Law, Adultery and Rape
...International protest helped in the case of 18-year old Christian Abok Alfa Akok in the West-Sudanese town Darfur who was charged with adultery and sentenced to death by stoning on 8 December 2001. In March 2002 the verdict was transformed into 75 lashings to be carried out immediately. Interesting here is the fact that by convicting a Christian this case stands in direct contrast to statements by Islamists that shari'ah is not applicable to non-Muslims. This is a tendency which can also be observed concerning issues such as alcohol prohibition, dress codes and gender separation on public transport.
http://www.ishr.org/activities/campaigns/stoning/adultery.htm

and...
13 Apr 2007
Kadra attacked in public
Norwegian-Somalian Kadra, who became famous in Norway for exposing imam support of female circumcision, was beaten unconscious on Thursday.
Kadra was attacked and beaten senseless by seven or eight persons of Somali origin, newspaper VG reports.
"I was terrified. While I lay on the pavement they kicked me and screamed that I had trampled on the Koran. Several shouted Allah-o-akbar (God is great) and also recited from the Koran," Kadra told VG.
Kadra linked the attack to recent remarks in VG where she said that the Koran's views on women needed to be reinterpreted.
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1734869.ece


Women in Iran being harassed, because of their immodest dress [headscarf's notwithstanding!]...
'The religion of police:'
Tuesday, April 24, 2007
More Iranian fashion victims.
Long time readers of Dinah Lord knows that she views the Islamic oppression of women to be vile and a key indicator of the 7th century mindset of modern Islam. It pains her to see women willingly submit to the fashion dictates of the He-Man-Woman-Hater's Club that is Islam. The screws are being tightened in Tehran. Will the world stay silent like they did when this began happening in Afghanistan? Or will they continue to bow and scrape and make 'reasonable accommodation'?
http://dinahlord.blogspot.com/2007/04/more-iranian-fashion-victims.html



[link]
and...
The Sunday Times      December 17, 2006
Tsunami survivors given the lash
Michael Sheridan and Dewi Loveard, Banda Aceh
Disaster donations help Islamic vigilante force impose punishments on women
WHEN people around the world sent millions of pounds to help the stricken Indonesian province of Aceh after the Boxing Day tsunami of 2004, few could have imagined that their money would end up subsidising the lashing of women in public.
But militant Islamists have since imposed sharia law in Aceh and have cornered Indonesian government funds to organise a moral vigilante force that harasses women and stages frequent displays of humiliation and state-sanctioned violence.
....Some say there are more “sharia police” than regular police on the local government payroll and that many of them are aggressive young men.
“Who are these sharia police?” demanded Nurjannah Ismail, a lecturer at Aceh’s Ar-Raniri University. “They are men who, most of the time, are trying to send the message that their position is higher than women.”
over 2 pages...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2508262,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2508262_2,00.html
[link]
and [below, which is] related to the story above,
....according to the new Sharia police in Aceh, it was local Indonesian muslim women who caused the Tsunami [because of their wickedness]...

This news report below, is another demonstration that ISLAM is not about 'good works'.
But this news report is yet another example, of ISLAM's means of achieving social, and political, control, through the use of VIOLENCE, and the consequent FEAR OF MORE VIOLENCE...
.....inflicting 'tsunami trauma' guilt, public humiliation, and threats of the lash / amputations - on the surviving victims of the recent tsunami.
Practicing muslims [in any dominant muslim, Sharia culture], are lovely people - NOT!

December 22, 2005
Tsunami was God's revenge for your wicked ways, women told
From Nick Meo in Aceh
Religious extremists are using last year’s storm to oppress the survivors
MARLUDDIN JALIL, a Sharia judge who has ordered the punishment of women for not wearing headscarves, was uncompromising: “The tsunami was because of the sins of the people of Aceh.”
......A year after the disaster which many see as a divine punishment, emboldened Islamic hardliners are doing their best to eradicate sinand women are their prime targets.
With reconstruction slow, irrational fears of a second tsunami high, and nearly 500,000 still homeless along 500 miles of coastline, the stern message falls on fertile ground. A Sharia police force modelled on Saudi moral enforcers enthusiastically seeks out female wrong doers for public humiliation.
.......She said: “They seek out women without headscarves or unmarried girls meeting boys in private and parade them through the streets in an open car. I’ve seen the police laughing and boasting, and the girls in tears. The Sharia police say the tsunami happened because women ignored religion. We never heard of this parading before the tsunami.”
The poor, powerless and female have borne the brunt of the moral enforcers’ righteousness. Mrs Syam claimed the wife of an official caught without a headscarf on a scooter was let off last month and a prostitute who was paraded through the town won the sympathy of passers-by because of the hypocrisy of her persecutors: the woman’s client was allowed quietly to disappear.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25689-1952823,00.html


ISLAM and apostasy [renouncing your 'faith'].
Apostasy under 'ISLAM'  =  death!

Koran 4.88, 89
What is the matter with you, then, that you have become two parties about the hypocrites, while Allah has made them return (to unbelief) for what they have earned? Do you wish to guide him whom Allah has caused to err? And whomsoever Allah causes to err, you shall by no means find a way for him.
They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

Bukhari:V4B52N260
The Prophet said, 'If a Muslim discards his religion, kill him.'


and a Wiki source on apostasy in ISLAM...
"All five major schools of Islamic jurisprudence agree that a sane male apostate must be executed.
....A faith which people maintain because of the fear of death cannot be genuine faith. This faith will be manifestly hypocritically chosen to deceive in order to save one's life."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam

and more Wiki...
Intolerance of Islam to criticism
Islam is frequently criticised as being intolerant of and suppressive of criticism, and especially of apostasy. Ibn Warraq has collected and published stories of the reported mistreatment of Muslim apostates at the hands of Islamic authorities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Islam#Intolerance_of_Islam_to_criticism

[link]
and, a horror story of the treatment of muslim apostates in the UK...
The Times
February 05, 2005
Muslim apostates cast out and at risk from faith and family
By Anthony Browne
While Christians who turn to Islam are feted, the 200,000 Muslims who turn away are faced with abuse, violence and even murder
For police, religious authorities and politicians, it is an issue so sensitive that they are accused by victims of refusing to respond to appeals for help.
....She fled to another part of Britain, but the attacks soon started again as locals found out about her. “I wasn’t going to leave again,” she said, adding that it was the double standards of her attackers that made her most angry. “They are such hypocrites — they want us to be tolerant of everything they want, but they are intolerant of everything about us.”
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article510589.ece

Page 2
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article510589.ece?token=null&offset=12


What do UK muslims think of their non-muslim co-citizens, specifically Christians?
By implication, Christians in UK are 'worse than the muck on their [muslim neighbours] shoes', they are Kuffar, they are filth...


December 5, 2007
British imam's daughter under police protection after converting to Christianity
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3006561.ece
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019081.php
Father told daughter, "that she was now "worse than the muck on their shoes" and she deserved to die.
And what had brought on his transformation? He had discovered that she had left the Muslim faith in which he had raised her and become a Christian.
"He said he couldn't have me in the house now that I was a Kaffir [an insulting term for a non-Muslim]," Sofia - not her real name - remembers."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/09/nmuslim109.xml
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019079.php
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019055.php


Your local imam still tells you, 'ISLAM, is tolerant of Christians, ISLAM is peace loving.'
And you
still believe it ???
This next story is not an isolated occurrence in any predominantly ISLAMIC community
[Sharia jurisdiction]...

December 20, 2007
Pakistani family, converts from Islam to Christianity, in hiding after death threats
Islamic Tolerance Alert: "Pakistan Couple And Children Threatened With Death For Embracing Christ," by Jawad Mazhar for BosNewsLife (thanks to Religion of Peace):
SARGODHA, PAKISTAN (BosNewsLife)-- A Pakistani Christian couple said Tuesday, December 18, they have gone into hiding in Pakistan's northeastern city of Sargodha because Muslim relatives threaten to kill them and their children for embracing Christianity.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019254.php

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=converts+from+Islam+to+Christianity%2C+in+hiding+after+death+threats&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

Muslim clerics are deceivers, ISLAM is a death cult, all who embrace ISLAM, embrace desolation.

Psalms 34:21
Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate.


and...
05/09/2007
PAKISTAN
New apostasy bill to impose death on anyone who leaves Islam
by Qaiser Felix
Pakistan’s government sends draft bill tabled by six-party Islamic alliance to standing committee for review. Under the bill’s terms, apostates would be sentenced to death or life in prison. Testimony by two adults is the only independent evidence needed to determine or demonstrate apostasy. Lahore archbishop is praying the bill is never adopted.
Islamabad (AsiaNews) – A draft bill adopted in first reading by Pakistan’s National Assembly is now before a standing committee. Tabled by a six-party politico-religious alliance, the Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal or MMA, the Apostasy Act 2006 which the government sent to the committee would impose the death penalty on Muslim men and life in prison on Muslim women in case they leave Islam. It would also force them to forfeit their property and lose legal custody of children.
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=9218&theme=8&size=A


and...
October 24, 2006
Spencer: Death to the Apostates
    An Afghan citizen named Abdul Rahman, you may recall, made international news last spring, when his conversion from Islam to Christianity led to his arrest, with the intention of putting him on trial for apostasy. At that time he was spirited away to safety in Italy. Now jihadists in Afghanistan are demanding his return to Afghanistan in exchange for a kidnapped Italian journalist, Gabriele Torsello. “We want this issue resolved before the end of Ramadan,” his captors demanded, but no resolution seemed imminent as the holy month drew to a close.
    It is safe to say that if Italian authorities agreed to turn over Abdul Rahman to the kidnappers, the convert would almost certainly be killed for his crime of apostasy from Islam. Yet at the time of Abdul Rahman’s arrest, puzzled Western analysts pointed to what they thought were guarantees of freedom of religion and of conscience in the new Afghan Constitution: after all, didn’t the document pledge “respect” for the Universal Declaration of Human Rights? Didn’t it say, “followers of other religions” were “free to exercise their faith and perform their religious rites within the limits of the provisions of law”?
    Indeed it did, but what were the “limits of the provisions of law”? The Constitution itself made the answer abundantly clear: “In Afghanistan,” it stipulated, “no law can be contrary to the beliefs and provisions of the sacred religion of Islam.”
.....Most non-Muslim observers missed the significance of these provisions, and especially the danger they posed to converts like Abdul Rahman and to the freedom of conscience in general. This is understandable, however, since so many Muslims in the West maintained that Islam contained no provision against apostasy. Typical of this was “Leaving Islam is not a capital crime,” a Chicago Tribune article published by M. Cherif Bassiouni, a professor of Law at DePaul University and President of the International Human Rights Law Institute, when Abdul Rahman was arrested. “A Muslim’s conversion to Christianity,” Bassiouni wrote, “is not a crime punishable by death under Islamic law, contrary to the claims in the case of Abdul Rahman in Afghanistan.” Several Muslim spokesmen have insisted the same thing to me in radio debates, excoriating me as “Islamophobic” for pointing out that many Islamic texts do indeed call for apostates to be killed.  [Taqiyya going on here!]
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/013719.php

What is Taqiyya?
Read on...


[link]
And here, from the BBC news site, is a very recent [2006-Sep-18] item, which gives an   unbridled   and very frank example, of peace-loving-ISLAM at work...

"On Friday, hardline cleric Sheikh Abubakar Hassan Malin told worshippers at his mosque to hunt down and kill whoever offended the Prophet Mohammed."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/5353850.stm

I feel sure that if   Sheikh Abubakar Hassan Malin   [story above] had considered the 'exposure' in the Western media that he might get, then this 'holy man' Abubakar, may have instead practiced a little judicious Taqiyya?

What is Taqiyya?
Read on...






[link]
Taqiyya
or, 'sanctified' deceit

TAQIYYA [a practice sanctioned in ISLAMIC 'scripture', google it] can be interpreted to mean that it is ok to lie to, and to mislead infidels... [about ISLAM] to promote the interests of ISLAM.

(1) Taqiyya defined, at an ISLAMIC site...
The word "al-Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's
beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies at a
time of eminent danger, whether now or later in time, to save oneself from
physical and/or mental injury." A one-word translation would be "Dissimulation."
http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter6b/1.html

Dictionary definition:
dissimulate /dI"sImjUleIt/
· v. hide or disguise one’s thoughts or feelings.
– DERIVATIVES dissimulation n. dissimulator n.
– ORIGIN ME: from L. dissimulat-, dissimulare ‘to conceal’.



Looks to me like any muslim could easily 'justify' a very broad interpretation of   Taqiyya,   and what it 'means' to him.
And any 'required' 'massaging' of an interpretation could also be made, to reflect the circumstances, in which he considers he finds himself in.
That clear?

So MY interpretation is...    [hey!!! why shouldn't i get to interpret what it means too?]...
So, according to ISLAM, as long as it will broadly serve the interests of ISLAM, it is OK to lie to infidels!

Hmmm...
How can we avoid the infidel scrutiny of a whole host of 'inconvenient' ISLAMIC practices?
Just lie about them!


see also...
(2) Taqiyya defined, by an online encyclopedia...
Taqiyya
“Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish it through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible..., and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory. ...One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie…”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya

So did you get that?

Taqiyya - is LYING.
Lying, to what purpose?

".....to achieve objectives."

Duh!



Further, if an ISLAMIC goal is 'obligatory', a muslim is OBLIGED to lie [if necessary], to achieve the goal.


For example, in assuring infidels about how peaceful ISLAM 'really' is, are muslim leaders in the West  l y i n g ???
Yes.
It seems so.

But whatever you do, don't ask the opinion of   Sheikh Abubakar Hassan Malin's   [a story higher on this page] about how to practice 'peace-loving-ISLAM', because what comes out of his mouth may offend your ears.
And it may be the truth!


Classic examples of  devout  muslim [Praise Allah!!! The Kuffar are sooooo dumb!LYING,    ".....to achieve objectives."...
Example1Example2




see also...
"......throughout the trial he denied he had intended to incite people to violence."

"......for he is a liar, and the father of it."
John 8:38-44


see also...
(3) Taqiyya defined, at an ISLAMIC site...
TAQIYYAH (CALCULATED DECEPTION)
It is defined as presenting an
outer appearance that belies
what one conceals inside...

..." Resorting to
taqiyyah is permitted only in some
special situations, like jihad
against those disbelievers who
persecute Muslims. That is part of
the etiquette of war..."
http://www.amislam.com/khutoot2.htm#TAQIYYAH


n.b.  In the definition above please note the valid construction phrase...
"...taqiyyah is permitted
...against those disbelievers who
persecute Muslims."


[link]
To the Jihadists, ANY infidel who resists the spread of ISLAM [into new lands] is, by [their] definition, 'persecuting Muslims' !!

And consequently, resisting the spread of ISLAM, equals being a literal enemy of ISLAM.
And consequently, muslims can [when it is 'convenient'] 'in good faith', kill these enemies of ISLAM.

The justification, to kill for Allah's Cause [to kill those who resist the spread of ISLAM into new lands] is all Koranic, it is endorsed in the Koran.
The Koran instructs muslims, that all who reject the message of ISLAM are actually sub-human [in the eyes of Allah] - and worthy of death.


Here is [a list of the ways, of] how Islam is 'oppressed' by the unbelievers [i.e. ways of justifying violent Jihad against the un-ISLAMIC world]
http://www.islam-watch.org/AbulKasem/IslamOppressed.htm
see also [lower on this page],
Muslim logic explained


Read this insightful [....or is that incite-ful? :-) ] comment on institutionalised lying within ISLAMIC culture...
"Following Islam does not produce truthful men. Never expect a Muslim to be telling the truth about anything regardless of how insignificant it may be. The factual truth is that the entire Islamic culture is an interwoven mess of social behaviors and communication techniques evolved over centuries to deal with the foundation of immoral behavioral Islam authorizes in a man........."
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=23958#c0018

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On reflection, of what has just been revealed immediately above...
At this point, you might be interested to know that,
ISLAM uses a word to disparagingly describe the non-believer.

'Kuffar'

FROM THE WIKI SITE, AN EXPLANATION OF THE WORD 'KUFFAR'...
"kuffar" = "...is an Arabic word meaning an unbeliever, a person who hides, denies, or covers the truth....an...infidel."
[emphasis is mine]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuffar

But i might say that, ISLAM is truly a Kuffar philosophy, if ever there was one.
As
muslims will go to extra-ordinary lengths to hide, deny, and cover the truth of what ISLAM is!

Why???


THIS IS WHAT THE WIKI SITE, AS AN EXPLANATION OF THE WORD 'KUFFAR', SHOULD READ...
"kuffar" = "...is an Arabic word meaning, a person who hides, denies, or covers the truth, a MUSLIM."


THE DECEPTION

Taqiyyah as a practice against Kuffar, is 'institutionalised' within ISLAM, it is a 'method' of facilitating the
spread of ISLAM / Jihad in new lands.
Jihadists regard their 'struggle', to spread ISLAM, as a war against non-believers!
[see also related Harbi, a non-believer, who does not live under Muslim rule. A harbi has no rights, not even the right to live. FOLLOW THAT LINK!!]

And the practice of Taqiyyah [deception] is 'justified' as a part of the 'etiqutte' of 'war'.

After all, ISLAM is at war in this world, a war against all non-believers.

THIS is why ISLAM is so dangerous to the West.
ISLAM in coming to the West, prosecutes so well, a philosophy, a culture, of combined 'approachment' and deception.

PUSHING THE BOUNDRIES

ISLAM goes about its spread [within a non-ISLAMIC, 'host' country] by, trying to aggressively constrain the [existing] cultural boundaries of the 'host' country, to within [an approximation of] ISLAMIC Sharia law.
This is usually done by asking the 'host' community to be 'nice', and to 'accommodate', and to not 'offend' the sensibilities of the muslim community.
And
ISLAM is doing this with the aim to first, slowly strengthen its position, and its influence [in the 'host' country, society].
As the position of muslims [Jihadists] in
the 'host' community strengthens, typically the ways in which muslim demands and protests are expressed will become more vociferous, and more violent. example-1, example-2, example-3

More broadly speaking, this is the modus operandi of the Jihadists [the way they 'promote' ISLAM in new lands]...
...including a process of attrition against the host, through muslim 'victimhood' [and subsequent protest].

When
muslims believe they are in a strong enough position to do so, they will attempt to forcefully impose their own [worldly] values upon non-believers in Western 'host' societies.
This process will become increasingly more violent as the hard line Jihadists gain more influence, in promoting their views to their own muslim community.
By this time society's norms of behaviour within the 'host'
community has devolved to inter-cultural conflict, and 'disagreements', sometimes on a very serious, and physically dangerous level.
By this time, the native 'host' community is feeling either very confused, or angry!
Or both!
At that time, those who will not submit to muslim authority will be regarded
by the Jihadists as 'enemies of ISLAM', with all of the consequences which that position entails [in a war!].

If you think that this conclusion, about the ambitions of ISLAM in the West is alarmist...
This is a link to a YOUTUBE video, of a short [1 min, 44 sec] debate...
Listen to Anjem Choudray's 'compelling' argument, listen and understand, that these people are not kidding.
Jihadists fully expect that they will achieve an ISLAMIC cultural revolution, here in the West.
Their stated desire is that muslims should have all [worldly] authority in our society, and that we should all live under [muslim authority] Sharia law.
Muslims debate Sharia (Islam laws) over England - Sky News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOfU7wskFdg


See also, these two news reports from the UK [2007]....

In the UK, some Imam's are teaching that, in the UK...
"Muslims must grow in strength... then take over."

The 10-month undercover investigation in the UK into home-grown extremism has revealed...
"Muslim worshippers are being urged by radical clerics to ignore British law"


I said above...
As the position of muslims [Jihadists] in the 'host' community strengthens, the ways in which their demands and protests are expressed will become more vociferous, and more violent.

This is Jihad!

Jihad?
Read on...





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So much has been heard in the West about the word, Jihad.



November 4, 2007
Saudi Arabia is hub of world terror
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article2801017.ece


There Can Be No End to Jihad'
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/februaryweb-only/22.0.html


Noble Quran 2:190 Footnote:
Jihad is holy fighting in Allahs Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allahs Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite.
....on page 39 of the Noble Qur’an , translation by Muhammad Khan

Quran 33:22
Among the Believers are men who have been true to their covenant with Allah and have gone out for Jihad (holy fighting). Some have completed their vow to extreme and have been martyred fighting and dying in His Cause, and some are waiting, prepared for death in battle.

Quran 47:33, 34
Believers, obey Allah, and obey the Messenger! Those who disbelieve and hinder men from the Cause of Allah, He will not pardon. Do not falter; become faint-hearted, or weak-kneed, crying for peace. You have the upper hand.

Quran 5:41
Whomever Allah wants to deceive you cannot help. Allah does not want them to know the truth because he intends to disgrace them and then torture them.



The primary tenet for every muslim in his 'religion' is to embrace 'The Cause of Allah'.
ISLAM, Sharia, should rule this world.
In ISLAM, Allah's Cause or 'The Cause of Allah', is the spread of ISLAM's dominating presence throughout the world.
The aim of muslims is to make ISLAM and Sharia pre-eminent, everywhere in this world.
This is, 'The Cause of Allah'.

Quran 9:19, 20
Do ye make the giving of drink to pilgrims, or the maintenance of the Sacred Mosque, equal to (the pious service of) those who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and strive with might and main in the Cause of Allah? They are not comparable in the sight of Allah: and Allah guides not those who do wrong.
Those who believe, and suffer exile and strive with might and main, in Allah's cause, with their goods and their persons, have the highest rank in the sight of Allah: they are the people who will achieve (salvation).

In ISLAM, muslims have a duty, and an obligation, to 'struggle' for, 'The Cause of Allah' .
That is, to 'struggle' until the whole world submits to ISLAM - then there will be peace.

This, is Jihad!
This, is ISLAM!

[link]
Muslim logic explained.

'The Cause of Allah'
= = to bring ISLAMIC rule to Kuffar lands.
And to pursue this political end, is the 'right' of every devout muslim!
Also, all devout muslims firmly believe that they have a duty, and a 'right', to 'struggle' [Jihad!] against any un-ISLAMIC persons who are seen as obstructing the spread, and influence, of ISLAM.
When this 'struggle' against the local Kuffar becomes violent, we in the West often call this 'struggle', terrorism!

But to the Jihadist mind, these attacks [against infidels] are [by definition!] 'defensive', as it is our infidel resistance [to the spread of ISLAMIC rule] that is an 'aggression' against ISLAM.

Muslims [ISLAM is always 'peace loving'], never go to war with infidels,
....muslims always 'DEFEND' ISLAM, against the infidel 'aggression'.

In the eyes of   EVERY   devout muslim, resisting the spread of ISLAMIC rule, equals being an enemy of ISLAM.


"Those who reject Allah, and hinder (men) from the Path of Allah, then die rejecting Allah,- Allah will not forgive them."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/047.qmt.html#047.034

"Against them [all unbelievers] make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah...."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/008.qmt.html#008.060


And striking down an enemy of ISLAM?
That
is not unlawful, that is   defending   ISLAM.

How could we infidels not see this???
...Duh!! Duh!! Duh!!
[link]
'Why do they hate us?'.....

The question has been posed, many times....
'Why do muslims hate us?'

Is it....


July 28, 2006
Islamic Dictionary for Infidels
......The resort to force to disseminate Islam is not war (harb), a word that is used only to describe the use of force by non-Muslims. Islamic wars are not hurub (the plural of harb) but rather futuhat, acts of "opening" the world to Islam and expressing Islamic jihad. Relations between dar al-Islam, the home of peace, and dar al-harb, the world of unbelievers, nevertheless take place in a state of war, according to the Qur'an and to the authoritative commentaries of Islamic jurists. Unbelievers who stand in the way, creating obstacles for the da'wa, are blamed for this state of war, for the da'wa can be pursued peacefully if others submit to it. In other words, those who resist Islam cause wars and are responsible for them.
......It's "oppression" when Muslim immigrants in the West must live by the same, secular laws as the native infidels,
[and] not sharia,
......The Saudi deputy minister of religious endowments, Abd Al-Rahman Al-Matroudi, stated in an interview on Saudi TV in July 2005 that "the definition of terrorism that concerns us is that it is any act or statement that contradicts the Koran or Sunna, whether in thought or action." He also said that Muslims should "impose their culture," and that peaceful ways should be pursued only when they were not strong enough to do this....
.....Aggression is something only infidels do.
.....it is not seen as aggression or war when Muslims attack non-Muslims. On the contrary,
it is seen as aggression when non-Muslims resist the Islamization of their lands and thus "place obstacles in the way" of the spread of Islam. They are defying the will of Allah. Since subjugation to Islam alone can bring peace, Muslims consider themselves to be "spreading peace"...
......[To the muslim mind,] Aggression: [Is...] When non-Muslims do anything to preserve their culture and resist the Islamization of their country. Even when this "aggression" is non-violent, such as publishing a cartoon critical of Islam, this intolerable insult to Islamic supremacy on earth can be answered with violence by Muslims. Since a refusal to submit to sharia is a rebellion against Allah, the very existence of non-Muslim communities can be viewed as an act of aggression.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/012406.php

From the previous article......

"......the very existence of non-Muslim communities can be viewed as an act of aggression."



And here, a good quote from a JW poster, who clearly grasps this concept.
A JW post, responding to ISLAMIC calls of......    "Enough is enough. They have to stop insulting Islam"...

"HAH! We can't stop 'insulting' Islam
because it seems like everything we DO insults Islam......."
Posted by: gymgal
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020072.php#c513521


There are several accounts here, of 'defensive' Jihad - striking down the enemies of ISLAM!




[link]
'Muslims' are not safe from Jihadists.
The Jihad also applies [is 'sanctified'], against un-ISLAMIC 'muslims', who are being murdered today by Jihadists.
Un-ISLAMIC 'muslims' are being murdered, ....because Jihadists can, with impunity, kill the un-ISLAMIC ['holy' murder being societally 'sanctified' in ISLAMIC societies!], and because these un-ISLAMIC 'muslims', are enemies of ISLAM!
Phooey?
Here is one, high profile example from Iran.
There are a few more examples here.

see also...
"...any Muslim who does not participate in their jihad is not a "true believer,"........and can therefore be killed with impunity."



And here, is declared another enemy of ISLAM...

UK Home Secretary John Reid has been heckled during a speech about targeting potential Muslim extremists.
He was interrupted by activist Abu Izzadeen,....
He accused the minister of being an "enemy" of Islam before he was led from the building by police and stewards.
But Massoud Shadjareh, who chairs the Islamic Human Rights Commission, said Mr Reid's demands were "unrealistic and not demanded from any other community".
He said the government, whose policies he said played a "substantial role" in radicalising people, "needs to come out of this state of denial, stop pointing fingers at others and instead recognise the root causes and its own responsibility".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/5362052.stm


and, the fruits of Jihad are so sweet!

September 24, 2006
 UK - Police to brief Muslims before terror raids
POLICE have agreed to consult a panel of Muslim leaders before mounting counter-terrorist raids or arrests. Members of the panel will offer their assessment of whether information police have on a suspect is too flimsy and will also consider the consequences on community relations of a raid.
Members will be security vetted and will have to promise not to reveal any intelligence they are shown. They will not have to sign the Official Secrets Act.
The first panel, expected to consist of four people, will be set up initially in London. Tomorrow representatives from police forces across England and Wales will decide whether to make the scheme national.
Muslim groups have welcomed the move, which is understood to be backed by Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan police commissioner.
This week the Association of Chief Police Officers will discuss with MI5 and the Home Office whether to reveal to the panel intelligence information from the security service.
and in the same article...
Last week Abu Izzadeen, a radical cleric who has so far escaped prosecution despite seemingly inciting terrorism, gained entry to a closed meeting in east London and heckled John Reid, the home secretary.
It has now emerged that Izzadeen apparently urged Muslims to wage holy war in Britain in an internet video downloaded by several thousand users from websites that closed down two months ago. The sites were linked to the Saved Sect, of which Izzadeen was leader and which has now been banned and disbanded.
In the video he told his audience: “In the UK no fighting takes place yet, but don’t be fooled, the time will come to you brothers . . . fighting is so close at hand.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2372471,00.html

My comment on the facts of the article above...
Oh what a terrible, terrible mistake!
We pander to the muslim community, we seek acquiescence from the muslim community, for the means of attainment and maintenance of peace in our community?

And why do we seek this acquiescence from our cultural 'guests'?
Why?
Because we fear the angry and belligerent responses from the ISLAMIC community, to our attempts to protect ourselves from violence, violence from members of their community!
[link]
Wake up!
These people [Jihadists] want to, intend to, replace our society, with their own society - literally!
And we are meekly accommodating their wishes in this matter!

Where will our Western timidness lead - ultimately?
From the lips of their own firebrands, Jihadists tell us of their intentions...
They will grow stronger, as we grow weaker.
...until we reach a 'tipping point' of power.
After that 'tipping point' is reached, [after being 'provoked' yet again, by some incident?] muslims will attempt to forcefully impose their own [worldly] values upon non-believers in Western societies.
And if the Jihadists are successful in their 'struggle'?
Those infidels who will not submit to muslim authority will be regarded as 'enemies of ISLAM'.
[typically, in an ISLAMIC 'paradise' 'enemies of ISLAM' are imprisoned and or 'liquidated'.]






[link]
When the whole world submits to ISLAM - then there will be peace.

...or to paraphrase the three slogans of the 'Party' , in the novel 1984....

Ignorance is Strength;
Freedom is Slavery;
Islam is Peace


and the dark words from the 1984 novel...
"The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake… We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites."


April 1st, 2007
Death To Britain, for asking for their illegally detailed sailors back!
How arrogant of them to ask for this. Everyone knows that the Iranians would never illegally detain anyone. Lets throw rocks at them and chant for their deaths…
http://www.joelstrumpet.com/?p=428#more-428



29 January 2007
Pakistan Taleban vow more violence
.....Baitullah's private army along with other militant groups have imposed a strict Islamic code in North and parts of South Waziristan.
They run a parallel government here. Music and videos are banned while militants claim people approach them for settlement of their disputes.
......"Allah on 480 occasions in the Holy Koran extols Muslims to wage jihad. We only fulfil God's orders. Only jihad can bring peace to the world," he says.
......"We will continue our struggle until foreign troops are thrown out. Then    we will attack them in the US and Britain until they either accept Islam or agree to pay jazia (a tax in Islam for non-Muslims living in an Islamic state)."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6292061.stm



see...
13 Mar 2006
Krekar claims Islam will win
Norway's most controversial refugee, Mullah Krekar, told an Oslo newspaper on Monday that there's a war going on between "the West" and Islam. He said he's sure that Islam will win, and he also had praise for suspected terrorist leader Osama bin Laden.
"We're the ones who will change you," Krekar told Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet in his first interview since an uproar broke out over cartoons deemed offensive to Muslims.
"Just look at the development within Europe, where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes," Krekar said. "Every western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries are producing 3.5 children.
"By 2050, 30 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim."
He claimed that "our way of thinking... will prove more powerful than yours." He loosely defined "western thinking" as formed by the values held by leaders of western or non-islamic nations. Its "materialism, egoism and wildness" has altered Christianity, he claimed.
Krekar, who's been supported by the Norwegian government since arriving as a refugee from northern Iraq in the early 1990s, now faces deportation after violating the terms of his refugee status and being deemed a threat to national security.
Bin Laden 'a good man'
Krekar told Dagbladet that he favours Islamic rule where political and religious leaders are one and the same. One such leader he respects, he said, is Osama bin Laden.
"Osama bin Laden is a good person," Krekar said. He claimed Osama bin Laden is considered a terrorist simply because he lacks his own state.
"Those who say Osama bin Laden is a terrorist are themselves killing our women and children," Krekar said.
Attempts to "spread democracy," he claimed, are merely a ruse to wage war against Islam, adding that "the West destroyed the Taliban regime in Afghanistan" because "it feared the Islamic state."
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1247400.ece


G'Dubya - the blindman [or is he???]...
CAIR: 'Moderate' friends of terror
by Daniel Pipes
New York Post
April 22, 2002
The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations presents itself as just another civil-rights group. "We are similar to a Muslim NAACP," says spokesman Ibrahim Hooper. Its public language - about promoting "interest and understanding among the general public with regards to Islam and Muslims in North America" - certainly boosts an image of moderation.
......CAIR Chairman Omar M. Ahmad told a crowd of California Muslims in July 1998, "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran . . . should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth."
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/394


and after this...
My name is       .....Victor Meldrew !!!!
April 12, 2007
Democrats invite Muslim Brotherhood leader to speak to Congress
A new apex of cluelessness (if the story is accurate). Would they have invited Hitler to address Congress in 1942?
"Egyptian Daily: Democrats Invite Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Leader and Muslim Brotherhood MPs to Congress," from the MEMRI Blog, with thanks to all who sent this in:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016032.php

one comment on the same page...
"I guess if you hate everything good about America and want to destroy it, then it makes sense to invite those of the same persuasion."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016032.php#c378039

for more info on the Muslim Brotherhood...
"God is our objective, the Quran is our Constitution, the Prophet is our leader, struggle is our way ..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood


12 April 2007
Bombs raise N Africa terror fears
By Magdi Abdelhadi
The recent explosions in Algiers and the foiled suicide attacks in Morocco have raised fears that North Africa may be facing a new surge in radical Islamist violence.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6550097.stm












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And another word, Dhimmitude

This word defines the onerous 'condition' of some [but only some lucky] infidels, who graciously, are entitled to live in an ISLAMIC paradise, under sharia law.
And the fate of those other, 'unlucky' infidels, not entitled to live under ISLAMIC grace [...their fate if they refuse to convert to ISLAM]?
Ask your local Imam, he would not tell you a lie.

2. The Qur'an, Mohammed's example, and Sharia advocate violence if necessary to spread Islam. The Qur'an states that muslims are to fight until Islam is the only religion followed. This is not abrogated. The Qur'an states that there is no compulsion in religion is a common response but when the Islamic invitation to accept islam is made examination of it reveals that one has only three choices. 1. Convert and enjoy all the benefits of Islam. 2. If you are a Christian or a Jew, you can remain in your faith but as previously mention, you are relegated to a second-class citizenship status and must pay the jizya. 3. If you are not a Christian or a Jew, you either convert or die. In light of this, the idea of no complusion does not ring true.
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/39873


and...
Musharraf wants the dhimmis to remember their place
September 19, 2006
"Pakistan calls for ban on 'defamation of Islam' in veiled attack on pope,"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/013196.php


Learn the truth of 'dhimmitude', of how ISLAM would treat us [... i.e. living as virtual, fearful, and submissive slaves!], in an ISLAMIC paradise.
Jihadists dream about it!
Jihadists dream that all non-believers would bow and scrape, and cow-tow, to 'superior' muslims
Jihadists dream that all non-believers would live subject to Sharia, and always be fearful that their 'protected status' could be removed, at a whim.

Dhimmitude, google it.

Dhimmis, "protected people," are free to practice their religion in a Sharia regime, but are made subject to a number of humiliating regulations designed to enforce the Qur'an's command that they "feel themselves subdued" (Sura 9:29)
...If dhimmis complained about their inferior status, institutionalized humiliation, or poverty, their masters voided their contract and regarded them as enemies of Islam, fair game as objects of violence.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/why-dhimmi.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhimmitude


Persecution of non-Muslims in Muslim countries
"According to Islamic laws, non-Muslims in Islamic Lands should be subdued and be treated like Dhimmis, or second class citizens. They should be coerced and intimidated to convert to Islam, through special humiliating taxes like Jizya imposed on them. This has been happening in the Islamic World since the last 1400 years. While Muslims demand equal rights in non-Muslim countries, non-Muslims are systematically persecuted, terrorized and ethnically cleansed from Islamic Lands."
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Persecution_of_non-Muslims_in_Muslim_countries

Persecution of non-Muslims in Muslim countries, just ISLAMOPHOBIC rhetoric?
one example [these news reports, are not difficult to search out]...
Iraq's Mandaeans 'face extinction'











[link]
Many of the news articles immediately below reflect the West's 'cringe',
 at confronting violent ISLAM,
and or
confronting the ISLAMISATION of the West.
Or, they show an 'accommodation' of
the ISLAMISATION of the West!
In a word, Dhimmitude!


All you fans of the novel '1984', have no fear, 'Newspeak' is alive and being practiced in Europe in 2007...
 
Don't confuse terrorism with Islam, says EU
By Bruno Waterfield in Brussels
31/03/2007
The European Union has drawn up guidelines advising government spokesmen to refrain from linking Islam and terrorism in their statements.
Brussels officials have confirmed the existence of a classified handbook which offers "non-offensive" phrases to use when announcing anti-terrorist operations or dealing with terrorist attacks.
Banned terms are said to include "jihad", "Islamic" or "fundamentalist".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/30/wislam30.xml


[link]
and...
Army meddling 'threatens Turkey's EU chances'
By Amberin Zaman in Ankara and Damien McElroy in Istanbul
05/05/2007
The European Union warned the Turkish military yesterday that its interference in the country's politics could jeopardise its chances of joining the EU.
"The EU is founded on the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, the rule of law, and the supremacy of democratic civilian power over the military," Olli Rehn, the EU enlargement commissioner, said in a statement.
"If a country wants to become a member of the Union, it needs to respect these principles."
......Onur Oymen, the hawkish deputy chairman of the main opposition Republican People's Party, said the secular basis of the Turkish state was the true guarantee of democracy.
"You can't have democracy without secularism," he said. "The notion of moderate Islam to check radical Islam is nonsense. This idea being promoted by certain countries should be abandoned."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/03/wturkey03.xml

from the previous article...
"You can't have democracy without secularism,...."
...say secularists in Turkey.

And the ISLAMIST's in Turkey seem to agree...
May 23, 2007
Turkish PM Erdogan in 1990s: Turkey's Constitution "a huge lie"; "One cannot be a Muslim and secular"
"Turkish PM Erdogan in Speech During Term As Istanbul Mayor Attacks Turkey’s Constitution, Describing it As ‘A Huge Lie’: 'Sovereignty Belongs Unconditionally and Always To Allah'; 'One Cannot Be a Muslim, and Secular,'"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016569.php



and...
Minister Welcomes Sharia In Netherlands If Majority Wants It
THE HAGUE, 13/09/06
Justice Minister Piet Hein Donner considers the Netherlands should give Muslims more freedoms to behave according to their traditions. Muslims refusing to shake hands is fine with him. And Sharia law could be introduced in the Netherlands democratically, in the minister's view.
http://www.nisnews.nl/public/130906_2.htm


and...
"Police to avoid Ramadan arrests"
BBC News, 2006/10/21

Via Dhimmi Watch: "I assume no arrest warrents are ever executed on Christmas Eve, either.":
"Police in Manchester have been told not to arrest Muslims wanted on warrants at prayer times during Ramadan.
Greater Manchester Police confirmed it had asked detectives not to make planned arrests during those periods for reasons of religious sensitivity.
The advice was emailed out to officers working in Moss Side, Hulme, Whalley Range, Rusholme, Fallowfield, Ardwick, Longsight, Gorton and Levenshulme.
Police said it was not a blanket ban, just a 'request for sensitivity.'"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/6073162.stm

....and less craven, than this UK example,
an example of how at least one US court operates, rebuffing efforts at ISLAMISATION of our Western culture, here.


and...
Terror farce over refusal to unmask 7/7 suspect
18.10.06
The war on terror has descended into farce after the Government refused to identify a July 7 suspect on the run from the security services.
The Home Office insists the British Muslim, who describes himself as a 'Holy warrior', is such a grave threat to national security he must be under a control order.
But, despite the 25-year-old committing a serious crime by repeatedly breaching the order and making himself a fugitive, John Reid will not take steps to lift his veil of secrecy.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23371122-details/Terror+farce+over+refusal+to+unmask+77+suspect/article.do


and...
English flag offensive to Muslims?
Officials worry prisoners might associate red cross with Crusades
Posted: October 5, 2005
Prison officials in Britain are concerned that tie pins worn by officers featuring the St. George's Cross – the symbol on England's flag – could offend Muslims who might associate it with the Crusades of the 11th, 12th and 13th centuries.
In a report on "race" in a jail in the northern English city of Wakefield, Chief Inspector of Prisons Anne Owers said the banner of St. George, the red cross of a martyr on a white background, could be "misconstrued," CNN reported.
......"A lot of Muslims and Arabs view the Crusades as a bloody episode in our history," he told CNN. "They see those campaigns as Christendom launching a brutal holy war against Islam.
But as Robert Spencer shows in his book "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades), the aggression was not unprovoked. In obedience to core teachings of the Islamic faith, Muslims armies overran the predominantly Christian Middle East, then drove deep into Europe long before any Crusade was even contemplated.
Doyle insisted, however, that "Muslim or Arab prisoners could take umbrage if staff wore a red cross badge."
"It's also got associations with the far-right," he said. "Prison officers should be seen to be neutral."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46663


and...
Eurabian Nightmares   
By Andrew G. Bostom
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 13, 2006
'While Europe Slept' chronicles Bawer’s personal encounter with Europe’s ongoing Islamization since late 1998. And his riveting narrative is a testament to Bawer’s intellectual honesty. Shunning glib moral equivalences between America’s Christian fundamentalist movement, and the infinitely more radicalized and destructive Islam rapidly transforming a self-deluded Western Europe into Eurabia
.......Cognizant of this phenomenon, a Danish Muslim leader, typical of many European imams, declared triumphally in 2000, “Muslims have a dream of living in an Islamic society…This dream will surely be fulfilled in Denmark…We will eventually be a majority”.  And such demography is already destiny in Islamic satellite colonies interspersed throughout Western Europe where demands for sovereignty began well before the recent Muslim intifada in France this past fall, 2005. Bawer provides these alarming examples from across Western Europe:
In France, a public official met with an imam at the edge of Roubaix’s Muslim district out of respect for his declaration of the neighborhood as Islamic territory to which she had no right of access. In Britain, imams have pressed the government to officially designate certain areas of Bradford as being under Muslim, not British, law. In Denmark, Muslim leaders have sought the same kind of control over parts of Copenhagen. And in Belgium, Muslims living in the Brussels neighborhood of Sint-Jans-Molenbeek already view it not as part of Belgium but as an area under Islamic jurisdiction in which Belgians are not welcome.
These burgeoning Muslim communities are also consuming disproportionate amounts of state sponsored welfare benefits. For example, Danish Muslims comprise 5% of the population, yet they receive 40% of the governmental outlays. And despite this largesse, facilitated by sympathetic social workers, the social workers themselves are often tyrannized by their Muslim clients. Bawer describes the chilling situation in Denmark:
Some clients lay waste to social security offices and hit social workers—not out of frustration, but because they’ve learned that such bullying gets them what they want.
Bawer further documents how Norwegian (Oslo) imams preach brazenly that Muslims should expect such welfare benefitsand feel justified in supplementing them by stealing from stores—as a form of jizya* extracted from their infidel “host” societies—societies that have not yet accepted their requisite subservience to Islamic Law!
......The third (and last) section of While Europe Slept analyzes the moribund responses to the 3/11/04 Madrid bombings, in addition to subsequent lesser traumas such as the murder of Theo Van Gogh and the 7/7/05 London bombings. Bawer excoriates these grossly inadequate reactions as tantamount to “…a chorus singing hymns of brotherhood and eager to convert the entire world to its religion of eternal peace”,  concluding,
It’s a pretty delusion. In reality, Europe is even now entering another chapter in its long history of violent struggle. The enemy can’t be wished or talked away. And what’s at stake isn’t just sovereignty of one or two nations but modern democratic civilization.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21609


and...
Saturday, March 25, 2006
Steyn: Will we stick our necks out for his faith?
By MARK STEYN
Fate conspires to remind us what this war is really about: civilizational confidence. And so history repeats itself: first the farce of the Danish cartoons, and now the tragedy - a man on trial for his life in post-Taliban Afghanistan because he has committed the crime of converting to Christianity.
.....On the other hand, this "moderate" compromise solution is being rejected by leading theologians. "We will not allow God to be humiliated. This man must die," says Abdul Raoulf of the nation's principal Muslim body, the Afghan Ulama Council. "Cut off his head! We will call on the people to pull him into pieces so there's nothing left." Needless to say, Imam Raoulf is one of Afghanistan's leading "moderate" clerics.
.....Unfortunately, what's "precious and sacred" to Islam is its institutional contempt for others. In his book "Islam And The West," Bernard Lewis writes, "The primary duty of the Muslim as set forth not once but many times in the Quran is 'to command good and forbid evil.' It is not enough to do good and refrain from evil as a personal choice. It is incumbent upon Muslims also to command and forbid." Or as the Canadian columnist David Warren put it: "We take it for granted that it is wrong to kill someone for his religious beliefs. Whereas Islam holds it is wrong not to kill him."
....In a more culturally confident age, the British in India were faced with the practice of "suttee" - the tradition of burning widows on the funeral pyres of their husbands. Gen. Sir Charles Napier was impeccably multicultural:
"You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: When men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks, and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/opinion/homepage/article_1070454.php




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Muslim sedition in the UK - goes unchallenged, unpunished, by UK authorities.
Why?


Dictionary definition:
sedition
· n. conduct or speech inciting rebellion against the authority of a state or monarch.
– DERIVATIVES seditious adj. seditiously adv.
– ORIGIN ME (in the sense ‘violent strife’): from OFr., or from L. seditio(n-), from sed- ‘apart’ + itio(n-) ‘going’.





07 March 2007
Islam’s ‘Great British’ infiltration
Muslims through the Koran are ordered as a ‘Divine’ requisite to being a Muslim, to convert non-Muslim countries (Dar al-Harb) into Islamic countries (Dar al-Islam). If, as a Muslim you do not work towards that end, then you are not a Muslim and are in the camp with the infidel which ultimately carries the threat of death by other Muslims. Whilst a country is still non-Muslim (Dar al-Harb), meaning ruled by a secular government then every section of society is classed as a ‘war zone’, this is what Dar al-Harb means. Muslims view their surroundings from this basis and have to conduct themselves as living in a war zone until they are able to enforce Islam upon the country and convert it into Islamic rule, Dar al-Islam (house of peace).
http://lionheartuk.blogspot.com/2007/02/islams-great-british-infiltration.html

Sedition?
There is more here.


[link]
and in the UK...
Sharia law is spreading as authority wanes
By Joshua Rozenberg, Legal Editor
29/11/2006

Islamic sharia law is gaining an increasing foothold in parts of Britain, a report claims.
Sharia, derived from several sources including the Koran, is applied to varying degrees in predominantly Muslim countries but it has no binding status in Britain.
However, the BBC Radio 4 programme Law in Action produced evidence yesterday that it was being used by some Muslims as an alternative to English criminal law. Aydarus Yusuf, 29, a youth worker from Somalia, recalled a stabbing case that was decided by an unofficial Somali "court" sitting in Woolwich, south-east London.
.....In his book Islam in Britain, Patrick Sookhdeo, director of the Institute for the Study of Islam and Christianity, says there is an "alternative parallel unofficial legal system" that operates in the Muslim community on a voluntary basis.
"Sharia courts now operate in most larger cities, with different sectarian and ethnic groups operating their own courts that cater to their specific needs according to their traditions," he says. These are based on sharia councils, set up in Britain to help Muslims solve family and personal problems.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/29/nsharia29.xml

Sharia, see also...
Poll reveals 40pc of Muslims want sharia law in UK
By Patrick Hennessy and Melissa Kite
20/02/2006
Four out of 10 British Muslims want sharia law introduced into parts of the country, a survey reveals today.
.......The most startling finding is the high level of support for applying sharia law in "predominantly Muslim" areas of Britain.
Islamic law is used in large parts of the Middle East, including Iran and Saudi Arabia, and is enforced by religious police. Special courts can hand down harsh punishments which can include stoning and amputation.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/19/nsharia19.xml

and note, the following link,
is at the bottom of the page, of the originating story [above]...
Related articles...
'British Muslims want own state'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/19/nsharia219.xml
this 'titled link' is still there, but the page itself seems to have 'disappeared',
...and the link is now dead.

I wonder why the Telegraph link to this article disappeared???

Interview....
"Article with extensive comments from Patrick Sookdeo on the Danish Cartoons Affair This article appeared in the Sunday Telegraph on 19 February 2006 and was removed from the website for "legal reasons". The editor that approved the printing of this story was subsequently fired from her position."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Sookhdeo#Articles

The article with the Patrick Sookhdeo interview, which was 'axed', removed, is lower on this page, here.



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Is this man, truly a servant of God, a servant of the Holy One of Israel?

Daniel 9:11
Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore *the curse* is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.


The curse ?    See, Deuteronomy 31 & 32        ....a curse 'over the face of the whole earth'.

7 February 2008
Sharia law in UK is 'unavoidable' 
Dr Rowan Williams     Dr Williams says Muslims should have a choice in legal disputes
The Archbishop of Canterbury says the adoption of certain aspects of Sharia law in the UK "seems unavoidable".
Dr Rowan Williams told Radio 4's World at One that the UK has to "face up to the fact" that some of its citizens do not relate to the British legal system.
.....He says Muslims should not have to choose between "the stark alternatives of cultural loyalty or state loyalty".
.....Dr Williams said an approach to law which simply said "there's one law for everybody and that's all there is to be said, and anything else that commands your loyalty or allegiance is completely irrelevant in the processes of the courts - I think that's a bit of a danger".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7232661.stm
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019843.php

".....an approach to law which simply said there's one law for everybody....I think that's a bit of a danger."
Dr Rowan Williams [in news report above]

comment at DhimmiWatch....

"Equality under the law" is now discrimination.
This is George Orwell's birthplace, afterall.
Posted by: Jimmy the Dhimmi
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019843.php#c506289

A translation of this 'muslim logic', now being adopted by AofC, Dr Rowan Williams : Equality with non-muslims = 'discrimination'

[link]
a related story, and Sharia law in practice....

February 9, 2008
Egyptian court: "Islam is the final and most complete religion [law] and therefore Muslims already practice full freedom of religion and cannot convert"
.....An Egyptian judge ruled this week in an unprecedented case that a Muslim who converted to Christianity cannot legally change his religious status....
[comment on page....]
"“The [Sharia] judge didn’t listen to our defense, and we didn’t even have a chance to talk before the court,” ....
for all those who would vote to allow Sharia law...take note...

Posted by: exsgtbrown
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019868.php#c507278

Note the quote, taken from the last article....

"....The judge didn’t listen to our defense, and we didn’t even have a chance to talk before the court,",

 Of course not,      ....because  dhimmis [non-muslims] do not have those rights [equality with muslims] in Sharia law jurisdictions.

For muslims to extend equality before the law to the 'guilty' people [non-muslims] would be un-thinkable, that would be unjust to 'innocent' muslims.

This is not a 'joke', nor is this sarcasm on my part.
I am NOT kidding,      ....this  is  the ISLAMIC mind set, in Sharia jurisdictions, towards 'un-believers'.





BBC reader responses to the question, Should UK adopt aspects of Sharia Law? story at,
BBC - Have Your Say     [select not, MOST RECENT     select, READERS RECOMMENDED !! ]
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=2&forumID=4246&edition=2&ttl=20080208010012&#paginator


If this is allowed to stand [acceptance of Sharia 'lite' in the UK], this will only be a beginning.
There will be more, and more [and increasingly violent] demands, by devout muslims in the UK.

Appeasement of evil,       .....brings more evil, more evil, more evil.



I HOPE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THIS:      Sharia law ONLY [singularly, exclusively], is acceptable to muslims!
And muslim doctrine is, that Sharia must be imposed upon all [ALL, not just muslims!].
Secular [non-muslim] law anywhere, everywhere, is an 'insult' to Allah, and to ISLAM - and this 'cause', is the Jihad, to bring Sharia to all of the world.



February 9, 2008
Fitzgerald: Rowan Williams, Beth Din courts, and Shari'a
.....The pretense, that the uninformed and terminally naive Archbishop of Canterbury has fallen for, that Muslims "only" want this little concession, should be seen in light of the steady and inevitable Muslim desire to remove everything that stands in the way of the spread of Islam. Shari'a imposed on Muslims -- many of whom do not want it.........because their legal position under the Shari'a-supplied family law is far inferior to what it would be under the laws of any Infidel land............and indeed does, contradict the law of the land in Great Britain........so too is the fact that this is not a final demand, but merely an opening one. If granted, it will lead to more and more such demands -- demands that swell with each new victory, as a sense of triumphalism is at the heart of the matter.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019878.php


"Allah 's Apostle said,"
I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say,
'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,'...."

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.196



Have you noticed yet?...
.....how muslims always insist that 'of course', muslims embrace 'tolerance' [seeking tolerance, from others],
....and muslims always endorse, and support 'multiculturalism' [where this tolerance, from others, promotes the political interests of muslims].

But h
ave you noticed yet, this 'accommodation', seems to be all one way [by non-muslims], and only occurs within non-muslim states?
.....indeed, 'moderate' ISLAM  flourishes , inside non-muslim nations.         sarc /off


Some examples of the advocates of ISLAMIC law, in full stride....

April 14, 2007 [Iraq]
The right to legislate belongs to God alone, and whoever disputes that is an apostate. The members of parliament deserve only death”

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016055.php

and....
December 31, 2007
Pakistani cleric: “We want Islamic law for all Pakistan and then the world. We would like to do this by preaching. But if not then we would use force.”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/019399.php

and....
February 9, 2008
Egyptian court: "Islam is the final and most complete religion and therefore Muslims already practice full freedom of religion and cannot convert"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019868.php

and....
February 9, 2008
Iran's parliament set to mandate death penalty over lighter sentences for apostasy from Islam
......“Apostasy was always illegal, but the court could hand down a jail term, hard labor or the death penalty,” said IRPP President Joseph Grieboski. “Now apostasy [would only] get the death penalty.”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019867.php


Stated here [immediately under the hanging man image],

'Further, what some non-muslims call 'moderate' ISLAM, is only rank deception, 'moderate' ISLAM is a 'mythical' creature, perpetrated upon the Kuffar, by  real  muslims.

Pointedly, 'moderate' ISLAM [is an illusion, a 'vapour', which] seemingly flourishes inside non-muslim nations.

But [strangely] 'moderate' ISLAM appears to be an unwelcome, and unclean, 'beast' in all ISLAMIC states?'


Stated on this page, here [immediately under "What is, TRUTH?..."],
FALSEHOOD...
"....Islam....really is a continuation of Judaism and Christianity."
[comment: 'pap' from, Dr. Khalid Iqbal, a muslim propagandist, spreading yet more Taqiyya.]
TRUTH...
"Dr. Iqbal does not seem to have informed his listeners that Islam is
not solely [comment: ISLAM does not regard iteslf, as...] a "continuation" of Judaism and Christianity,
but a replacement and repudiation of them.....


see also,
'There can be no end to Jihad...'

'UK Christians who convert to Islam are feted, while UK muslim apostates face abuse, violence and murder'
“They [UK muslims] are such hypocrites — they want us to be tolerant of everything they want, but they are intolerant of everything about us [Christians].”
....says ex-muslim, who is now being victimised by the hate, and death cult.





[link]
Here below is that news report, 'British Muslims want own state', which is also archived at another www site,

ENGLAND: The day is coming when British Muslims form a state within a state
By Alasdair Palmer
The Telegraph Group
February 19, 2006
For the past two weeks, Patrick Sookhdeo has been canvassing the opinions of Muslim clerics in Britain on the row over the cartoons featuring images of Mohammed that were first published in Denmark and then reprinted in several other European countries.
"They think they have won the debate," he says with a sigh. "They believe that the British Government has capitulated to them, because it feared the consequences if it did not.
"The cartoons, you see, have not been published in this country, and the Government has been very critical of those countries in which they were published. To many of the Islamic clerics, that's a clear victory.
"It's confirmation of what they believe to be a familiar pattern: if spokesmen for British Muslims threaten what they call 'adverse consequences' - violence to the rest of us - then the British Government will cave in. I think it is a very dangerous precedent."
Dr Sookhdeo adds that he believes that "in a decade, you will see parts of English cities which are controlled by Muslim clerics and which follow, not the common law, but aspects of Muslim sharia law.
"It is already starting to happen - and unless the Government changes the way it treats the so-called leaders of the Islamic community, it will continue."
For someone with such strong and uncompromising views, Dr Sookhdeo is a surprisingly gentle and easy-going man. He speaks with authority on Islam, as it was his first faith: he was brought up as a Muslim in Guyana, the only English colony in South America, and attended a madrassa there.
"But Islamic instruction was very different in the 1950s, when I was at school," he says. "There was no talk of suicide bombing or indeed of violence of any kind. Islam was very peaceful."
Dr Sookhdeo's family emigrated to England when he was 10. In his early twenties, when he was at university, he converted to Christianity. "I had simply seen it as the white man's religion, the religion of the colonialists and the oppressors - in a very similar way, in fact, to the way that many Muslims see Christianity today.
" Leaving Islam was not easy. According to the literal interpretation of the Koran, the punishment for apostasy is death - and it actually is punished by death in some Middle Eastern states. "It wasn't quite like that here," he says, "although it was traumatic in some ways."
Dr Sookhdeo continued to study Islam, doing a PhD at London University on the religion. He is currently director of the Institute for the Study of Islam and Christianity. He also advises the Army on security issues related to Islam.
Several years ago, Dr Sookhdeo insisted that the next wave of radical Islam in Britain would involve suicide bombings in this country. His prediction was depressingly confirmed on 7/7 last year.
So his claim that, in the next decade, the Muslim community in Britain will not be integrated into mainstream British society, but will isolate itself to a much greater extent, carries weight behind it. Dr Sookhdeo has proved his prescience.
"The Government, and Tony Blair, the Prime Minister, are fundamentally deluded about the nature of Islam," he insists. "Tony Blair unintentionally revealed his ignorance when he said, in an effort to conciliate Muslims, that he had 'read through the Koran twice' and that he kept it by his bedside.
"He thought he was saying something which showed how seriously he took Islam. But most Muslims thought it was a joke, if not an insult. Because, of course, every Muslim knows that you cannot read the Koran through from cover to cover and understand it.
The chapters are not written to be read in that way. Indeed, after the first chapter, the chapters of the Koran are ordered according to their length, not according to their content or chronology: the longest chapters are first, the shorter ones are at the end.

[comment: "...the Koran.....is mostly a lot of boastful, unstructured, largely violent, gibberish!" - my own opinion of the Koran.]

"You need to know which passage was revealed at what period and in what time in order to be able to understand it - you cannot simply read it from beginning to end and expect to learn anything at all.
"That is one reason why it takes so long to be able to read and understand the Koran: the meaning of any part of it depends on a knowledge of its context - a context that is not in the Koran itself."
The Prime Minister's ignorance of Islam, Dr Sookhdeo contends, is of a piece with his unsuccessful attempts to conciliate it. And it does indeed seem as if the Government's policy towards radical Islam is based on the hope that if it makes concessions to its leaders, they will reciprocate and relations between fundamentalist Muslims and Tony Blair's Government will then turn into something resembling an ecumenical prayer meeting.
Dr Sookhdeo nods in vigorous agreement with that. "Yes - and it is a very big mistake. Look at what happened in the 1990s. The security services knew about Abu Hamza and the preachers like him. They knew that London was becoming the centre for Islamic terrorists. The police knew. The Government knew. Yet nothing was done.
"The whole approach towards Muslim militants was based on appeasement. 7/7 proved that that approach does not work - yet it is still being followed. For example, there is a book, The Noble Koran: a New Rendering of its Meaning in English, which is openly available in Muslim bookshops.
"It calls for the killing of Jews and Christians, and it sets out a strategy for killing the infidels and for warfare against them. The Government has done nothing whatever to interfere with the sale of that book.
"Why not? Government ministers have promised to punish religious hatred, to criminalise the glorification of terrorism, yet they do nothing about this book, which blatantly does both."
Perhaps the explanation is just that they do not take it seriously. "I fear that is exactly the problem," says Dr Sookhdeo. "The trouble is that Tony Blair and other ministers see Islam through the prism of their own secular outlook.
They simply do not realise how seriously Muslims take their religion. Islamic clerics regard themselves as locked in mortal combat with secularism.
"For example, one of the fundamental notions of a secular society is the moral importance of freedom, of individual choice. But in Islam, choice is not allowable: there cannot be free choice about whether to choose or reject any of the fundamental aspects of the religion, because they are all divinely ordained. God has laid down the law, and man must obey.
'Islamic clerics do not believe in a society in which Islam is one religion among others in a society ruled by basically non-religious laws. They believe it must be the dominant religion - and it is their aim to achieve this.

[comment: see also, "......Islam does not consider religion to be a private matter............and it gives Muslims political power over non-Muslims."]

"That is why they do not believe in integration. In 1980, the Islamic Council of Europe laid out their strategy for the future - and the fundamental rule was never dilute your presence. That is to say, do not integrate.
"Rather, concentrate Muslim presence in a particular area until you are a majority in that area, so that the institutions of the local community come to reflect Islamic structures. The education system will be Islamic, the shops will serve only halal food, there will be no advertisements showing naked or semi-naked women, and so on."
That plan, says Dr Sookhdeo, is being followed in Britain. "That is why you are seeing areas which are now almost totally Muslim. The next step will be pushing the Government to recognise sharia law for Muslim communities - which will be backed up by the claim that it is "racist" or "Islamophobic" or "violating the rights of Muslims" to deny them sharia law.
"There's already a Sharia Law Council for the UK. The Government has already started making concessions: it has changed the law so that there are sharia-compliant mortgages and sharia pensions.
"Some Muslims are now pressing to be allowed four wives: they say it is part of their religion. They claim that not being allowed four wives is a denial of their religious liberty.

[comment: ...Sharia law jurisdictions give muslims the right to kill Kuffar [un-ISLAMIC persons] who reject ISLAM's superiority. [i.e. insult ISLAM]
This is 'lawful action' is a 'religious freedom', claimed by every devout muslim - I AM NOT KIDDING!!!  [1][2] ]

There are Muslim men in Britain who marry and divorce three women, then marry a fourth time - and stay married, in sharia law, to all four.
"The more fundamentalist clerics think that it is only a matter of time before they will persuade the Government to concede on the issue of sharia law. Given the Government's record of capitulating, you can see why they believe that."
Dr Sookhdeo's vision of a relentless battle between secular and Islamic Britain seems hard to reconcile with the co-operation that seems to mark the vast majority of the interactions between the two communities.
"Well, it isn't me who says Islam is at war with secularisation," he says. "That's how Islamic clerics describe the situation."
But isn't it true that most Muslims who live in theocratic states want to get out of them as quickly as possible and live in a secular country such as Britain or America? And that most Muslims who come to Britain adopt the values of a liberal, democratic, tolerant society, rather than insisting on the inflexible rules of their religion?
"You have to distinguish between ordinary Muslims and their self-appointed leaders," explains Dr Sookhdeo. "I agree that the best hope for our collective future is that the majority of Muslims who have grown up here have accepted the secular nature of the British state and society, the division between religion and politics, and the importance of allowing people to choose freely how they will live.
"But that is not how most of the clerics talk. And, more significantly, it is not how the 'community leaders' whom the Government has decided represent the Muslim community think either.
"Take, for example, Tariq Ramadan, whom the Government has appointed as an adviser because ministers think he is a 'community leader'. Ramadan sounds, in public, very moderate. But in reality, he has some very extreme views. He attacks liberal Muslims as 'Muslims without Islam'. He is affiliated to the violent and uncompromising Muslim Brotherhood.
"He calls the education in the state schools of the West 'aggression against the Islamic personality of the child'. He has said that 'the Muslim respects the laws of the country only if they do not contradict any Islamic principle'. He has added that 'compromising on principles is a sign of fear and weakness'."

[comment: compare, '......a sign of fear and weakness.'  here, with the views of another dissident ex-muslim,
'DISSENT CRUSHED' ...Peace," she says, "was considered a sign of defeat and weakness."]

So what's the answer? What should the Government be doing? "First, it should try to engage with the real Muslim majority, not with the self-appointed 'community leaders' who don't actually represent anyone: they have not been elected, and the vast majority of ordinary Muslims have nothing to do with them.
"Second, the Government should say no to faith-based schools, because they are a block to integration. There should be no compromise over education, or over English as the language of education. The policy of political multiculturalism should be reversed.
"The hope was that it would to ensure separate communities would soften at the edges and integrate. But the opposite has in fact happened: Islamic communities have hardened. There is much less integration than there was for the generation that arrived when I did. There will be much less in the future if the present trend continues.
"Finally, the Government should make it absolutely clear: we welcome diversity, we welcome different religions - but all of them have to accept the secular basis of British law and society. That is a non-negotiable condition of being here.
"If the Government does not do all of those things then I fear for the future, because Islamic communities within Britain will form a state within a state. Religion will occupy an ever-larger place in our collective political life. And, speaking as a religious man myself, I fear that outcome."
http://www.opinion.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/19/nsharia219.xml    [link article has been removed]

the original link to this news report is dead,
but this news report is still archived here,
http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3645
and here,
http://sixdaysmore.blogspot.com/2006/03/it-gets-interesting.html
if those links disappear, try this Google search,
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22The+day+is+coming+when+British+Muslims+form+a+state+within+a+state%22&btnG=Google+Search

...a quote from The Noble Koran [the book is mentioned in the article. here is the same quote, in two places on this site]  [1][2]

Patrick Sookhdeo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Sookhdeo


[link]
See this next report, UK muslims declare their wish to see the UK become a muslim state.
And, muslims  now feel bold enough  [in the UK] to declare who, in the UK, are 'the enemies of ISLAM'.
This is significant.

i.e. When coming from the lips of a devout muslim this is a declaration of, who is worthy of death.
It is a declaration, identifying which person[s] the muslim brothers can 'justly' seek to kill.
Clearly a list has been draw up.
Any 'martyrs' available???...

This [declaration] is open sedition in the UK.
At one time, this would be reason enough for a person to lose his head in England!
Today, interestingly enough,
when they come to power in the UK, muslims will oblige in this regard, and willingly remove a few heads, but it will be the heads of all those infidels who stood in their way.

Regards this muslim sedition in the UK, what response from UK authorities - to date?
We are still waiting!...

July 9, 2007
Muslims declare sovereignty over U.S., UK
Across town from the site of the recent attempted car-bomb attacks, several thousand Muslims gathered in front of the London Central Mosque to applaud fiery preachers prophesying the overthrow of the British government – a future vision that encompasses an Islamic takeover of the White House and the rule of the Quran over America.
"One day my dear Muslims," shouted Anjem Choudary, "Islam will govern Britain!"
"......Queen Elizabeth, go to hell!"
......angry Muslim leader Abu Saif, who kept his voice at a fever pitch through declarations such as: "Brothers and sisters, make no mistake. Make no mistake. The British government, the queen, the MPs in this country, they are enemies to you, enemies to Allah and enemies to the Muslims."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017319.php

...more sedition mentioned here.


ISLAM has spread throughout the civilised world, as muslims have been accepted [over several decades] into many non-muslim communities, but,

Isaiah 26:10
Let favour be shewed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD.

11  LORD, when thy hand is lifted up, they will not see: but they shall see, and be ashamed for their envy at the people; yea, the fire of thine enemies shall devour them.










[link]
'ISLAM is peace', is a BIG lie, a fraud, which political leaders in the West want to believe!

June 19, 2007
"The naivete of American "counterinsurgency experts" is breathtaking...."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017013.php 


November 6, 2007
Aussie FM: Pakistani intelligence services linked to Taliban
While the United States "reimburses" Pakistan billions of dollars for its "efforts" in the "war on terror," Alexander Downer takes a more realistic view.
"Pakistan 'less than robust' at combating extremism," by Craig Skehan in the Sydney Morning Herald (thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist):
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/018696.php


November 6, 2007
Jihad terror in UK sourced in Pakistan
Here is more indication of how energetic the tottering Musharraf regime has been in fighting jihadists in Pakistan. More on this story: "Terror in UK sourced in Pakistan: MI5 chief,"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/018697.php


November 6, 2007
Pakistan: Reforms fail at many madrassas
More background here on why the Musharraf regime is fighting for its life. The madrassas -- all too many of them -- "were preaching jihad before September 11, and they are still preaching jihad."
And they don't mean an interior spiritual struggle, either. "Osama is a Muslim, and whatever he is doing is in the interest of Islam," says Muhammad Allahyar,...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/018701.php


and...
After the Hamas coup in Gaza 2007, June...
Hamas lists seized U.S. weapons
Claims over $400 million in munitions, equipment taken from compounds
June 20, 2007
By Aaron Klein
......Hamas vowed to obtain emergency U.S. aid slated for Fatah.
Last week, Hamas took complete control of all Fatah positions and U.S.-backed security compounds in the Gaza Strip, including Fatah's major Ansar complex – where American-provided weapons were delivered and stored – and Abbas' presidential guard complex.
The U.S. in recent years reportedly transferred large quantities of weaponry to build up Fatah forces against rival Hamas. Hamas officials told WND in multiple interviews they would seize the American weapons.
......"Like the American weapons in Gaza we told you will come to Hamas, also the weapons and aid the Americans are giving to Abu Mazen (Abbas) as part of their conspiracy against us in the West Bank will finds its way to the Palestinian resistance and Hamas," said Abu Abdullah.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56262



“How did it come to this?”
Theoden - King of Rohan, as the battle of Helm's Deep is about to commence.

J. R. R. Tolkien - The Two Towers

Gamling :    "Your men, my lord, will follow you to whatever end."
Theoden :    "To whatever end… Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountains. Like wind in the meadow. The days have gone down in the west. Behind the hills, into shadow. How did it come to this?"





Britain should integrate into Muslim values
January 4, 2007
"The right to be in a multicultural society," argued the prime minister in a speech last month, "was always implicitly balanced by a duty to integrate, to be part of Britain." Behind these remarks was an assumption that integration is a one-way street. However, there are many things that the rest of the country could learn from Muslims.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1982376,00.html


UK - You can swim, but you have to wear Muslim dress
By JAYA NARAIN
9th December 2006
A council has sparked a row after it shut a swimming pool to hold Muslim-only sessions on a Sunday afternoon.
The swimming sessions - which are for men only - are held for two hours every week at a leisure centre in London.
Non-Muslims may swim during this time but only if they follow the strict dress code of swimming shorts that hide the navel and extend below the knee.
Women are completely banned from attending but have their own special swimming sessions outside opening hours.
During their sessions bathers must be covered from head to foot with their swimming costume covering their body from the neck down to the ankle.
Last night furious members vowed they would hand in their membership at Thornley Heath leisure centre in Croydon, London.
......A spokesman said: "Muslims are not allowed to show intimate parts of their body. This is non-negotiable. Muslims have as much right to go swimming as anyone else."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=421414&in_page_id=1770


Muslims 'should get special health care'
11th January 2007
Muslims should be provided with faithbased services - including male circumcision - on the NHS, says one healthcare expert.
Professor Aziz Sheikh is also calling for women patients to see same-sex medics, better access to prayer facilities in hospitals and more information so Muslims can avoid alcohol and pig-derived drugs.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=428279&in_page_id=1770

These stories go on, and on, and on!
Many of these stories of   Dhimmitude   could be considered   farcical   and   humorous, if it was not so serious an issue!












Today, if we [non-muslim foreigners] live and work in a country which is under ISLAMIC Sharia law,
we are commonly considered as infidels or 'Crusaders' - polluting sacred, pure,
ISLAMIC land by our mere presence!

In Saudi Arabia [and other M.E. states] it is wise for resident 'crusaders' [non-muslim foreigners] to live in, and stay in, guarded, gated communities - for their own protection.

And yet we infidels, welcome muslims to our infidel lands with opens arms and, with our multiculturalism.

What are we dolts to do?
Nothing at all.

And soon your children will live in an ISLAMIC paradise.

The nub of the whole problem, as someone else so eloquently put it, is...
"Muslims believe it is their right to live all over the world and to spread their influence, but accuse us of being Crusaders and justify terrorism against any non-Muslims for being in or doing business in Muslim countries."
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/006201.html


6 April 2007
Saudis kill French murders suspect
Saudi security forces have killed a suspect in the murder of four French citizens on 26 February, the official Saudi Press Agency (SPA) has reported.
....Police have arrested a number of people over the killings and are still seeking two other suspects.
No-one has admitted killing the French nationals - who were part of a group of nine French people living in the Saudi capital Riyadh.
They came under fire from two gunmen on a road leading from Madain Saleh towards the Islamic holy places in Medina and Mecca.
Saudi Arabia says it has being fighting Islamic militants over the past three years, during which time there have been a number of high-profile attacks on foreign nationals.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6532651.stm






Islam & multiculturalism  = =  a contradiction in terms

It is strange [inconsistent!] that Imam's living in ISLAMIC states [under sharia law] are openly, critical of the West, and especially of the West's inclusive cultural practices.
[for, 'the West's inclusive cultural practices', read 'multiculturalism'.]
While, at the same time Imam's living in the West are [sometimes!] much more moderate in their criticism of their infidel hosts - us.

My question is, do we in the West have all of the 'best', and all of the most tolerant Iman's, that ISLAM has to offer?
Are we so lucky?
Are we so blessed?
Praise Allah!
Again, ISLAM when among the infidels, seems to be a [necessarily] moderated ISLAM   [is there more Taqiyya going on here? see above].

But just notice the venom that is so quickly found, when needed...
With just the slightest criticism of any aspect of ISLAM by an ignorant infidel, those Imam's living here in the West [verbally] attack the critic [in their host community] who is being, "...immoderate and extreme."
[link]
And this is another issue,

 ISLAMIC 'victimhood'
The 'blame game'.
All of the blame [for muslim 'offense' ] being attributed to non-believers, and their host communities...



This TACTIC, is what i would call a calculated 'response' of insincere [feigned] ISLAMIC 'victimhood'.
It is very clearly used as an act of attrition against the host culture.
Here is one good example [there are many more!]...

"FIREBRAND Muslim cleric Mohammad Omran has blamed the Howard Government for radicalising young Muslims, claiming that demonising Islam was driving its followers towards a terrorist mentality."
i.e. What Omran above, is saying is,
..."If you don't submit to our [cultural] violence, we will become even MORE violent.
And, you must regard our actions [our cultural violence] as your fault !!"

This tactic, [blame shifting] tries to totally sideline the fact that ISLAMIC terrorism is a real threat to our Kuffar communities.
And yet muslims portray this threat to our communities as a fantasy at best, and malicious [on our part!] at worst.
i.e. "Will the   Islamophobia   against us 'nice' muslims never end ???"

It is always our Western [host] culture which is accused by muslims of being riven with...
Pick one... 'prejudice', 'racism', 'intolerance', 'discrimination', 'extreme views', 'immorality', 'immodesty', etc.
It is our Western [host] culture which is at fault, and it is we who are 'provoking' those within the ISLAMIC community to actions and responses which only 'seems' to be [cultural] intolerance or rage, on the part of us peace loving muslims.
And in any case, muslims argue, if their actions, responses, are slightly over-the-top, it is totally 'justified'.
ISLAM is, muslims are, never, never, ever, to blame for any [cultural] intolerance, or rage, displayed.
It is always something other than, external to, ISLAM which is at fault - for 'provoking' these actions, or justified outbursts of indignation.

THE TRUTH.
The truth is that muslims [among us] are accusing us infidels, of what muslims practice, and teach, oh-so-freely in the propagation of their so called peaceful 'faith'.

....the INTOLERANCE of non-muslims and their culture, and the hate, and murder of those non-muslims who reject, and refuse to embrace ISLAM !

Muslims have stated, categorically, that they... DO NOT WANT TO INTEGRATE into Western societies.

SHARIA is what muslims TELL US that they want, and that is what muslims within Western 'host' countries, are working feverishly towards accomplishing.

"...because Islamists are driven by a divine mission to ensure the whole earth, in due course, learns to submit to Islamist rule."

And this 'mission' is called JIHAD, or The Cause of Allah!

[link]
Typically [looking at the recent 'progress' of ISLAM's incursion into Europe], as their position in their host communities strengthens, muslim intolerance becomes vociferous, until it [the intolerance towards their hosts, and their host culture] is then commonly expressed through violence.
It seems that this violence is always targeted toward anything that is close to hand,
toward anything that reflects the influence of the host culture.

THIS STATEMENT ABOVE IS NOT A SCARE TACTIC, NEITHER IS IT A FANTASY.

THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING TODAY, NOW [2006], IN FRANCE AND BELGIUM.

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/429
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1541
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1381
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1384
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/14/uparis.xml
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1428592006
[link]
And...
In the UK,
after six 'innocent' muslims [suspected Islamic extremists] are arrested [in this news report, note the demand for Sharia law in the UK]...
Muslims Stage Demo Outside Police Station
Friday, 27th April 2007
Islamic supporters of six Muslims arrested in London earlier this week today staged a rowdy demonstration outside the top security police station where they are being held.
......The group, dressed in traditional Muslim clothes including veils, chanted in Arabic: "God is the greatest! There is only one God, Allah, and Mohammed is the final messenger of Allah!"
....."We are angry and furious. Islamic values have been attacked, Islamic women have been attacked by the Government and there has been a policy of spying on the Islamic community."
......Mr Islam said: "We definitely want to see Sharia law in place here. We want to see it implemented for everyone. Only then will there be harmony and there will be peace and justice amongst mankind."
......"We believe that as Muslims Sharia is for everyone and it can actually help solve problems in the world today.
"We have a very good economic system that will deal with homelessness in this country. In Palestine, Jews, Christians and Muslims lived peacefully for over 500 years
under Shariah law."
http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?story=RM2736804I&news_headline=muslims_stage_demo_outside_police_station

Who is www.lse.co.uk ????
Anyway, good on them!





[link]
There is very little [factual] reporting by mainstream media [MSM],
which is prepared to actually identify
the
'immigrant youths' responsible for the violence and sedition,
as being from muslim communities.

The MSM invariably,
does not
identify this violence as being ISLAMIC inspired and motivated.

And yet the evidence does seem to suggest that it is!




e.g. This pertinent comment from a   jihadwatch.org  reader, posting about the  'Paris riots'  exemplifies the situation, re MSM [non] reporting.

'If you go to http://news.google.com and search for Paris riot you get 1395 hits for this week.
When I added "muslim" to the search terms, I only got 49 hits, none from major papers'

Posted by: PapaBear [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 27, 2007 8:11 AM
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/018939.php#c477641

the comments refer to this....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7116213.stm

see also,
The reader responses to this French 'urban violence' story at,
BBC - Have Your Say     [select not, MOST RECENT     select, READERS RECOMMENDED !! ]
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=2&forumID=3867&edition=2&ttl=20071128232152&#paginator




These news reports, citing muslim cultural violence [in Europe] are often not reported by mainstream media outlets, or when they are, the reports are factually 'gutted' [i.e. the 'identifying' details of the motives of the individuals, for their violence are often omitted from the reports], e.g....
A mainstream media report....
"A band of up to 30 youths forced passengers out of a bus in a southern Paris suburb..."
Often when you do a Google on the details of these [individual] stories, they are often not found at any of the mainstream media outlets.
But enough of these reports do get through [online,  www.lse.co.uk  etc.], to make the truth of what is happening, undeniable;
Muslim cultural violence is rife in those Kuffar societies that have large muslim communities!

Opinion, the BBC - ISLAMIC apologists through, and through,
http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1554

Another 'reporting' example here,
This report [exposure] from jihadwatch.org...
June 14, 2007
AP's sweet tooth
Sunni jihadists took over a sweets factory in Iraq and made it into their headquarters. U.S. and Iraqi forces raided it, and found bomb-making materials inside.
AP's headline?
"U.S.-Iraqi Forces Raid Sweets Factory"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016918.php

Why this a 'slant' in the headline?

Get informed!
Two [of the best] online sites which collate daily, many reports of muslim cultural [and actual!] violence are...
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/


About 'Racism' - countering the 'prejudice', 'racism', 'intolerance', 'discrimination', tags [pick one!] thrown at us, every time the ambitions of violent Jihadists are confronted, or thwarted, in the West.


This phenomenon of ISLAMIC violence, towards the Western host, is usually portrayed as being our own fault.
Muslims are seemingly forced to acts of violence,
forced to acts of protest, as a result of our immoral, immodest, unjust, intolerant, Western society.
And this violence is always portrayed by muslims as a
justifiable 'response', to defend their ISLAMIC values, and to defend their ISLAMIC community - from the immoral and or unjust influence of their hosts.
So.... yet more ISLAMIC 'victimhood' is propagated.
This, just becomes a vicious circle - literally!
DON'T FIT IN.
INSTEAD, 'BASH' THE 'INTOLERANT', 'IMMORAL', HOST.
UNTIL THE HOST 'ACCOMMODATES' OUR CULTURE!

THE CONSEQUENCES.
Slowly the influence of the ISLAMIC community grows stronger, as the culture of the host community grows weaker.

...until a 'tipping point' of power will be reached.
this is happening now in Europe...
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1482


See also, at this link these news reports from the UK [2007]....

In the UK, some 'moderate' Imam's are teaching that, in the UK...
".....Muslims must grow in strength... then take over."
The 10-month undercover investigation in the UK into home-grown extremism has revealed...
What appears to be the common message being preached to muslims in British mosques.
Preachers urging UK muslims to reject British ['Kuffar'] society and to supplant their hosts society with ISLAM, through Jihad.

[link]
And here, someone else who has the measure of these muslim cultural, political, thugs.
Jihadists who are   masquerading   as a moderates [of ISLAM].
And make no mistake these Jihadists sing the same tune, wherever they are found!
This news report from the UK...

So this is what they mean by moderate voices
By RICHARD LITTLEJOHN
11th September 2006
With exemplary tact and exquisite timing, the ‘leader’ of Britain’s Muslims chose the eve of the fifth anniversary of 9/11 to warn that we are facing the threat of two million home-grown Islamic terrorists.
The preposterous, self-aggrandising ‘secretary-general’ of the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), Muhammad Abdul Bari, predicted an angry backlash against what he perceives as widespread ‘Islamophobia’ in this country.
......Their victimhood shtick is treated as gospel by broadcasters and they are taken seriously by government ministers and senior police officers.

They never miss an opportunity to advance their own agenda. It always the same old song. They utterly condemn terrorism, you understand, but unless we give them exactly what they want, they can’t be held responsible for the actions of the more excitable members of their community.
.......They are the ones hiding behind religion for political ends. I certainly don’t need any lessons in bigotry from someone like Bari, who invites as an honoured guest to his East London mosque a ‘radical’ cleric who describes Jews as ‘monkeys and pigs’.
......‘Islamophobia’ is just another of those catch-all, smear-the-messenger fantasies dreamed up to close down debate and stifle free speech.
......The anniversary of the attacks on America should be an occasion for sober reflection and remembrance. But the MCB has never met an atrocity it didn’t try to exploit. Their tactic is always the same.
After their perfunctory condemnation of terrorism, there’s always the caveat about British foreign policy in the Middle East and the assertion that the real victims are not those who have actually been blown to smithereens but Muslims themselves.
While they could never condone what has happened, we are invited to understand the anger and alienation which cause young men to turn themselves into human bombs.

The fact is that this jihad started long before 9/11, years before Iraq and Afghanistan. The first attack on the World Trade Centre was in 1993.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/newscomment.html?in_article_id=404746&in_page_id=1787&in_page_id=1787


More comment on mythical 'moderate muslims', and a cartoon...
http://geocities.com/realtrueactuality/ModerateMuslims.html

Yet more comment, here using reasoning to expose the lie, that there are many 'moderate muslims' among us...
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AboutSite.htm

There are  muslims  [Jihadists!], then there are apostate muslims [who, confusing the issue[!], will also claim to be muslims].
That's it!
Muslims are Jihadists, OR they are apostate muslims, PERIOD!


Is it being immoderate and extreme, in being critical of a 'political' ideology which shuns the 'light' of examination and scrutiny?
Is that a fair tag?

Or is this ISLAMIC rage, purely a reaction against the shining the light itself, on an 'issue'?
A calculated reaction!

Is muslim rage justified when an uncomfortable TRUTH is exposed by that 'light' of examination and scrutiny?
Ha!
No!
Shine that light i say!


Howard call to Australian Muslims
Australian Prime Minister John Howard has called on moderate Muslims to be more critical of terrorism.
and the response of the local Imam's was [to a call encouraging the muslim community to be more criticical of terrorism]???...
Islamic leaders in Australia have reacted angrily to the comments, saying Mr Howard should not single out Muslims for criticism.
[ISLAMIC 'victimhood']
Surprise, surprise!! [not!]

Apologists for ISLAM portray it as a 'Religion of Peace', and hospitality.
But ISLAM is the antithesis of everything we in the West believe in.
ISLAM [under sharia law, under a true ISLAM!] is the antithesis of moderation, and inclusion.

For those who express dissent, or for those who express views that challenge the 'flaws' in ISLAM, beware.
Under ISLAM in the West, you are safe to criticise ISLAM**, but ISLAM [under sharia law, where ISLAM has 'authority'] is an -ideology- of incitement to violence, and murder against those who dare to live in a different world to ISLAM, to those who dare to express 'non-islamic' views.

** Oh yes wait a minute, i forgot about the Dutch Film director, Theo Van Gogh, who was critical of aspects of ISLAM, and was subsequently murdered in broad daylight, in Holland!

The victim, Theo Van Gogh, 47, led an extraordinary life. Theo was an out-
spoken and prominent Dutch film director, author, journalist, actor, and producer. 
He was a staunch advocate of free speech....
http://www.criminology.com/articles/murder_in_broad_daylight.pdf
...murder_in_broad_daylight.pdf = 81 kb

[link]
Immediately below, more news stories related directly to
this TACTIC of feigned ISLAMIC 'victimhood',

with the intent of intimidating 'Kuffur' host communities.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,19269-2337669,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2438570,00.html
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MN_PASSENGERS_REMOVED_MNOL-?SITE
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061121/ts_nm/religion_imams_dc
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/21/national/main2202120.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6189675.stm

5 January 2007
Cartoons protester found guilty
A British Muslim has been found guilty of soliciting murder during a London rally against cartoons satirising the Prophet Muhammad.
Anjem Choudary, a former spokesman for the now banned Al-Muhajiroun organisation, said Muslims were treated as "second class citizens" and could not get a "fair trial".
He said: "Muslims are demonised and vilified.
"This is a failure of capitalism, of democracy and the freedom of speech."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6235279.stm











The cultural hypocrisy [and cultural violence] of ISLAM

Examples of how we in the West are considered racist and or aggressors if we want to protect our culture and lifestyle.

[link]
January  7, 2003
Mufti arrested after police struggle
Police will summons the spiritual leader of Australia's Muslim community, following a struggle with a highway patrol officer in Sydney's west yesterday morning.

"The police officer, he try to do his job but not the Australian way," the Mufti said. "I think he try the Chicago way, not Australian way."
Police say the car was found to be unregistered and uninsured and a struggle followed.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200301/s758587.htm
http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/comments/sheikh_shaken_down/
and...
2006-11-05
Hysteric Cleric - He gets sick every time there's trouble - and We're getting sick of his trouble!
http://www.israelated.com/node/2883
[ISLAMIC 'victimhood']
....WHY was the Mufti of Australia [the supposed spiritual leader of muslims in Australia] driving an unregistered and uninsured [reportedly being his own] vehicle???
....WHAT sort of example is the Mufti of Australia giving to other muslims in Australia???
....to explore the reason why many UK muslims are encouraged to avoid properly licensing their vehicles, see this UK news report...

".....One member warned our undercover reporter against getting a job because it would be contributing to the kuffar (non-Muslim) system.
.....Even paying car insurance was seen as supporting the [Kuffar] system. “All the (Saviour Sect) brothers drive without insurance,....”

Just a coincidence of action / circumstance?
It is a bit of a stretch, to think so...
Muslims openly tell their own community... "Do not contribute [pay taxes] to the kuffar (non-Muslim) system."    ....see the examples...(1), (2), (3), (4)

...by the way, this 'Mufti' in this story above, is the very same "uncovered meat" Hilali.

Like everyone else here you must register and insure your vehicle on our roads.
The 'Australian way' is to not then complain about the 'process' of the law, when you are caught cheating other Australian tax payers.


as in the story above, another story from Australia related to the desire of muslims to avoid supporting their Kuffar communities...

Hardline clerics urge tax cheating
Richard Kerbaj
March 13, 2007
HARDLINE Muslim clerics are encouraging their followers to cheat the tax system because they consider paying income tax contrary to Islamic law.
[read...paying Kuffar taxes is supporting the non-ISLAMIC political system]
Muslim leaders have warned that fundamentalist imams who put sharia law ahead of Australian law are also condoning welfare fraud and the cash economy as tax-evasion methods.
Sydney-based Islamic leader Fadi Rahman told The Australian that the extremist clerics who were preaching messages against paying income taxes were also staunchly opposed to Western ideologies, including the Australian way of life.
He said he had heard hardline clerics at Friday sermons in Sydney highlight the importance of cheating the tax system.
"I mean, just like how you've got clerics (with) extreme views who are telling the Muslims in the Western world to declare war against the very country that they live in and the very country that is paying for their day-to-day life, you'll find that these are the clerics who are telling them to dodge the tax system," said Mr Rahman, a youth leader and the president of the Independent Centre for Research Australia.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21371194-2702,00.html


and another story, related to the cultural apartheid we are discussing here,
endorsed by, exploited by, muslims when it suits them...
muslims in the West, are 'flags in the wind'...

January  6, 2003
Man refused bail for indecent assault
A 27-year-old Iraqi refugee accused of indecently assaulting a Japanese student at Kings Park has been refused bail in a Perth court.

His lawyer Swaren Ludher asked Magistrate Paul Heaney to release Mr Al-Jibauri on bail, saying his client was a Muslim and needed a certain lifestyle to remain sane.
Police prosecutor Ray Thompson objected saying Mr Al-Jibauri was a significant flight risk and was a suspect in another similar case.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200301/s758388.htm
[ISLAMIC 'victimhood']

When you are brought before our courts on a serious charge, you cannot try to claim a culturally based immunity from the 'process' of the law.
Because you are.... a MUSLIM.



and here, another quote is taken from a BBC news story [mentioned above, under Jihad]
Home Secretary John Reid has been heckled during a speech about targeting potential Muslim extremists.
He was interrupted by activist Abu Izzadeen, who said he was "furious" about "state terrorism by British police".
....Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said it was "extraordinarily difficult" to clamp down on Islamic extremism without offending large groups of Muslims.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/5362052.stm
[ISLAMIC 'victimhood']


[link]
and...
"How dare you come to a Muslim area..."
indeed!
....and yes, it is here in the UK, he is referring to....

British Home Secretary shouted down, called `an enemy of Islam'
"....There are fanatics who are coming to groom and brainwash children in this community. Grooming them to kill themselves in order to murder others. Look for the tell-tale signs now and talk to them before their hatred grows or you risk losing them forever."
How dare he say such an untruth! Dr Reid's speech was interrupted by hecklers shouting shouted "shame on you" and calling Reid a "tyrant".
One of them, Abu Izzadeen, began a tirade, saying: "How dare you come to a Muslim area..."
....When Reid tried to speak again, another well known Muslim `activist' Anjem Choudary, stood up and began yelling at the Home Secretary.
"Muslims do not need British values," he said. "We believe Islam is superior, we believe Islam will be implemented one day. It is very rich for you to come here and say we need to monitor our children when your Government is murdering people in Iraq and Afghanistan."
http://joshuapundit.blogspot.com/2006/09/british-home-secretary-shouted-down.html



January 24, 2007
Threatened French teacher quits teaching
Robert Redeker Update.
.........Redeker said further that he wasn’t sorry for his article. In the article he had called the Quran a 'book of unbelievable violence' and the Prophet Muhammad a 'merciless warmonger.'
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014961.php















While, in ISLAMIC states, when enraged muslims kill christians (Nigeria, Egypt, Morocco, Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc, etc) they many times portray and justify this violence, under ISLAM, as protecting themselves and their families from the influence of decadent infidels and 'Crusaders'.
So it is, that often the mere presence of an infidel in a 'holy' ISLAMIC land, can justify attacks [often murder!], by enraged Jihadists.
By the way, according to many, many, Jihadists, all ISLAMIC lands are 'holy', and are therefore defiled by the presence of infidels and 'Crusaders'.
This even includes those 'muslim lands'..... in the UK too!
Hence there is violence against non-believers there too!
It is all so logical.
All you need do to understand this logic is read the Koran - and praise ALLAH.


Gunman fires on Jordan tourists
4 September 2006
A gunman opens fire on tourists in Jordan's capital, killing a Briton and injuring five other tourists.

...Eyewitnesses said the attacker, said to be a Jordanian, approached the tourists shouting "God is great"
the followup to this story [above],
Jordan tourist attacker to hang
21 December 2006

As the sentence was read out in Jordan's state security court, Jaoura shouted in Arabic: "God is great!" and "We are the masters, not the slaves."
"I am a holy warrior and I thank God for this verdict," he said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6199397.stm

Catholic priest knifed in Turkey
2 July 2006
Police detained an unnamed 47-year-old man who they described as suffering from mental illness, and who was shouting "Alla Akbar!".


Arrest over Turkey priest killing
7 February 2006
Father Andrea Santoro was shot in the chest on Sunday. Witnesses say the gunman shouted "God is great" as he fled.
.....There has been widespread speculation that the murder may have been an act of revenge linked to growing protests around the world by Muslims angry about cartoons satirising the Prophet Muhammad which appeared in the European press.



When the whole world submits to ISLAM - then there will be peace.










Multiculturalism is wonderful, but it seems to be going all one way.

How is the philosophy of 'integration' & multiculturalism - applied by ISLAM here in the West?

Well, ISLAM accepts every concession offered by us.
And then all too often, you will hear a muslim community spokesmen venomously reject any local criticism, of any muslim, anywhere - by any local non-believer!

And when we in the West speak of this openly, or scrutinise muslim individuals, or scrutinise ISLAMIC practices, as we are want to do in an open society,
it is we who are accused of being "...racist, intolerant and extreme."

But also, we are always told by muslims [or apologists for muslims, among us] that [somehow] all of these 'troubles' between peace-loving-muslims and infidels, are the fault of we intolerant and insensitive infidels.


21 January, 2004
Dutch are 'polarised' says report
The Netherlands' example as a successful, tolerant, multicultural community has taken a dent with the publication of a parliamentary report saying Dutch society is becoming increasingly polarised, with huge ethnic ghettos and subcultures tearing the country apart.

The report blamed successive Dutch governments for what had previously been seen as a positive policy designed to make life easier for immigrants - allowing them to be taught in their native languages at primary school.
This had merely perpetuated their alienation and prevented them from integrating into Dutch society properly, it said.
....Trevor Phillips, chairman of the UK's Commission for Racial Equality, says the real enemy of integration is inequality: "The more we keep people unequal, the more they are likely to say, 'This society doesn't want us, it discriminates against us,' (and) they fall into the hands of extremists."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3417429.stm
[ISLAMIC_'victimhood']

and...[link]
December 26, 2005
Howard Government Radicalising Young Muslims

FIREBRAND Muslim cleric Mohammad Omran has blamed the Howard Government for radicalising young Muslims, claiming that demonising Islam was driving its followers towards a terrorist mentality.
http://justifythis.blogspot.com/2005/12/sheik-omran-howard-government.html
[the 'originating' link for this story, at www.theaustralian.news.com.au, has been removed, or has 'disappeared'.]
another reference to the news report is here...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/009560.php#c156934
[ISLAMIC_'victimhood']


and...[link]
12/1/2002
'Arab Malcolm X' poised to put a flame to Belgium's powder keg

We reject integration when it leads to assimilation,' says Abou Jahjah. 'I don't believe in a host country. We are at home here and whatever we consider our culture to be, also belongs to our chosen country. I'm in my country, not the country of the Belgians. We are citizens, not foreigners.'
And if the political establishment does not start accommodating such views, Abou Jahjah warns of trouble ahead. 'If they don't get the idea and keep excluding, they will create another no-future generation,' he warns.
Although he stresses violence is not his chosen route, the AEL's website, packed with anti-Israeli rhetoric, paints a very different impression. The legend 'We shall overcome by any means necessary' is juxtaposed above a picture of masked Palestinian gunmen.
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/text12-1-2002-31374.asp

There it is again, 'ISLAM-speak', paraphrasing what Abou Jahjah is saying,
..."If you don't submit to our [cultural] violence, we will become even MORE violentAnd this [our violence] is your fault !!"
[ISLAMIC_'victimhood']


Oooops!
It must be we multiculturalists who are at fault.


"Multiculturalism is to blame for perverting young Muslims"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/08/15/do1501.xml
[ISLAMIC_'victimhood']


There!
What did i tell you!

Let us all convert to ISLAM, because....
When the whole world submits to ISLAM - then there will be peace [NOT!].










[link]
News reports on the 'radicalisation' of muslim youth
[taking place often in 'Kuffar' nations]


Muslim vs Muslim [2003 March?]
JOHN LYONS: Something quite disturbing is happening here in western Sydney. Since the September 11 attacks in America 18 months ago, I've made many visits here to monitor the mood of the Muslim community. But something is now changing. Even people regarded as moderate seem to be becoming more hardline. Listen, for example, to the answer given by Sheik Hilali's spokesman, Keysar Trad, when I asked whether he accepts that Osama bin Laden was behind for those September 11 attacks.
http://sunday.ninemsn.com.au/sunday/cover_stories/transcript_1239.asp


 January 26, 2007
Canadian intel agency grasps for clues into "jihadization" of youth
The continuing assumption that Islam has been hijacked by a Tiny Minority of Extremists, and that "mainstream" Islam is "moderate" leads the Canadian Security Intelligence Service to a series of dead ends in attempting to explain the appearance of jihadists among Muslims in Canada.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014994.php


 January 26, 2007
Abu Bakar Bashir Threatens Jihad Against Indonesian Police
An update on this story. "Suspected Terror Leader Abu Bakar Bashir Threatens 'Jihad' Against Indonesian Police," from Associated Press:
    JAKARTA, Indonesia — An alleged Southeast Asian terror leader threatened to call for holy war against Indonesian police Thursday, days after an anti-terror squad shot dead 15 suspected Islamic extremists.
.......    "If Muslims are being killed, then we must fight back," the 69-year-old cleric told around 100 hard-liners outside the National Human Rights Commission in the capital, Jakarta, where they were protesting Monday's killings.
    "If necessary, we must organize a jihad," he said.
    Police say they shot the 15 men Monday after coming under attack as they entered a militant stronghold in Poso, a flash-point town on Sulawesi. They recovered large numbers of guns, bombs and ammunition.
    Islamic groups and politicians have criticized police following the raid.
    However, Indonesia's vice president, other government officials and most of the media in the world's most populous Muslim nation have supported the operation.
"There is an attempt in Poso to eliminate the Muslims so the unbelievers will control the town," Bashir said. "I curse the actions of (the anti-terror squad) Densus 88 for killing Muslims and helping the unbelievers."
......Over the past two years, Islamic extremists — some believed to Jemaah Islamiyah members — have carried out a series of shootings, beheadings and bombings against Christian men, women and children.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014993.php


see also.....
11 January 2007
BRITAIN'S NEW PREACHERS OF HATE
By Bobby Pathak

[link]
The account of a UK, ex-Jihadist, on the 'problem' of ISLAM in the West...
I know how these terrorists are inspired
By Ed Husain
02/05/2007
The recent conviction of five young British Muslim men has yet again opened the debate about how Britain, famed for its plurality and tolerance, bred home-grown terrorists. And, more important, how do we heal the divisions and communal disintegration in our cities that continue to serve as an Islamist underworld in which the rhetoric of jihad and destruction goes unchallenged?
I know how these young men are inspired to wreak death and destruction because I have first-hand experience of being in one such cell. I have since seen the error of my ways.
In 1995, at college in east London, I was part of the secret cell structure of Hizb ut-Tahrir, an extremist organisation banned in most Muslim countries and rejected by most mosques in Britain. Yet the group had a free rein on university and college campuses, where it advocated that British Muslims were a community whose allegiance lay not with Queen and country, but to a coming caliph in the Middle East.
This caliph would instruct us to act as agents of the caliphate in Britain, and open a "home front" by assisting the expansionist state. We believed that all Arab governments were not sufficiently "Islamic" and were liable to removal; entire populations would submit to the army of the caliph, or face extinction.
....I recall my Islamist days when my mind was closed to an alternative argument: there was only one way - my group's way. All others, including fellow Muslims, were wrong and heading for hell. To argue that dialogue will win over extremist Islamists is a myth; theirs is a mindset that is not receptive to alternative views, and does not recognise the sacred nature of all human life.
....In 1991, Omar Bakri, then leader of Hizb ut-Tahrir, called for the assassination of John Major - we ignored it. In 1997, Osama bin Laden declared a jihad against the West - we ignored it.
Today, in our midst, Hizb ut-Tahrir calls for an expansionist, violent, totalitarian Islamist state - and we continue to ignore it. There is no quick fix to the problem of home-grown terrorism, but banning Hizb ut-Tahrir would be an excellent first step, sending a strong signal to aspiring terrorists that Britain has not changed the rules of game. We no longer play that game.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2007/05/02/do0203.xml








[link]
ISLAM is a failed culture.

ISLAM is
a failed, violent, self destructive culture.
ISLAM is a culture whose principle 'strength' is falsehood!
Among devout muslims, falsehood is embraced as a virtue,
whenever it may remain undiscovered [by the victim, hence why disclose the truth?],
and wherever it is advantageous, convenient, profitable.

And the clerics, of a resurgent ISLAM [due to oil money], wish to impose a version their [failed!] supremacist culture of violence, on all people living in the wider world.

In case you did not realise this, i will state it,    .....muslims consider themselves and their society to be superior, to all other examples of human society.
Because it says so, in the Koran...

Koran 3:110
Ye are the best community that hath been raised up for mankind.
Ye enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency; and ye believe in Allah.
And if the People of the Scripture [Jews and Christians] had believed it had been better for them.
Some of them are believers; but most of them are evil-livers.


And yet, the West seems to be successful, and prosperous.
So much more so than, well you know who.....

And our apparent cultural success in the West, is a principal reason why muslims hate the West.
We [in the West] are an insult to muslim pride [i.e. their own high opinion of themselves], and we are an affront to the declarations of  Mohamed, and ISLAM.
This position is stated well here by Dave Bailey....

"....More generally, Infidels insult and humiliate Muslims simply by being successful
while Muslims and Islamic nations languish in poverty and chaos.
Unwilling to question the usefulness of Allah’s perfect laws,
the only acceptable explanation for the abject state of Muslims
is that there is a vast conspiracy of Jews and Christians against them."

http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&sid=820&file=article&pageid=3

But not to worry, Allah will help muslims overcome the infidel, those who are 'the vilest of animals'.

In its current ascendency, ISLAM is feeding like a CANCER upon our successful Western culture, ISLAM is feeding on our wealth and knowledge like a malignant parasite.

Because of our Western technological dependence on Arab oil, ISLAM grows in strength, exploiting our own technology, and exploiting the wealth, the accumulated knowledge, and freedoms of our successful culture, against us.
Unchecked, in this 21 century, ISLAM is quickly gaining strength, until it will consume and destroy us, its victim.
And i suspect, then [again] later, ISLAM will be consumed itself, in its own, self generated, cultural self destructive violence.
That is ISLAM.

What does ISLAM produce?
The vast wealth many Arab countries enjoy [but NOT their own people!] was a natural gift of oil under their feet - this wealth itself, was exploited for Arabs, by our Western technology.

What does ISLAM produce?
Fear and hate.
Fear  in  non-muslims     [Through their use of violence and terror, muslims teach non-muslims to fear and 'respect' ISLAM].
The hate  of  non-muslims     [ISLAM through the instruction of the Koran, teaches every muslim to hate non-muslims].
And the hate  of  muslims 'not like us'     [i.e. ISLAM teaches the hate of any 'apostate muslims', who will not bow down to Allah, and follow our version of Allah's 'message'].



"All those who are not Muslims are Satan."
These are the words of a man who murdered,     ....his own muslim 'apostate' brother.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016931.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam



Look around the world.
Where ISLAM has its full head, where it is 'fulfilled' in every way, it is a brutal and racist, all absorbing, and non-inclusive, and intolerant ideology.
It is an ideology of hate, for all 'outsiders' who dare, yes i say dare, to criticise or scrutinise muslims and ISLAM in any way.
Muslims will deny this characterisation.

But instead of only listening to what muslims say [more Taqiyya ? see above], we should look at the facts, of what they are doing - yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
ISLAM survives and prospers through the terror, and violence directed at its critics.

ISLAM is not a peaceful religion.
[link]
ISLAM, is not a 'religion' at all.

Dictionary definition:
religion
· n.
1 the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Ø a particular system of faith and worship.
2 a pursuit or interest followed with devotion.
– DERIVATIVES religionless adj.
– ORIGIN ME (orig. in the sense ‘life under monastic vows’): from OFr., or from L. religio(n-) ‘obligation, reverence’.


Typically, 'religion' is understood to be the devotion to, and the
worship of, a God.

Religion, is not a justification for the murder of all who would resist your WORLDLY, POLITICAL influence.

Religion, is not a justification to use your professed belief in   'Allah the most merciful'   to slaughter those who would live outside of your worldy influence.


ISLAM is not a religion, it is a political ideology focused intently on the generation of hate, towards, and against, anyone who demonstrates any resistance to its influence.

ISLAM is a political ideology focused intently, and actively on the subjugation of all other cultures that it encounters.

And if we 'critically' look within ISLAM's own 'homelands' today, what type of societies are there to be found?
What do we see?

Where the clerics are in charge, we always see violent [to criticism], suppressive, 'theocracies' [read, thug-ocracies]!
And what is behind these 'theocracies'?

We must assume, from our observation of the 'political' processes there, a largely, cowering mass of human beings.
With any who might want to criticise the 'political' environment, too petrified by fear of ISLAM, to speak out in any meaningful way, against ISLAM itself.
[link]
Here, is one recent example of what can happen to brave souls who seek to express themselves in an ISLAMIC paradise...

20 December 2006
'Mass purges' at Iran universities
Show of defiance
Iran's students protest against 'mass purges' by the hardliners

Iranian students say there is a second cultural revolution under way in the universities with scores of professors forcibly retired and politically active students being threatened with expulsion.
Student anger exploded with an unprecedented show of defiance when President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad went to Tehran's Amir Kabir University on 12 December.
Pictures shot on a mobile phone showed angry students chanting against the president, accusing him of being a fascist and a puppet of the hardliners.
......According to student activists 181 students have received letters warning them not to get involved in politics, while 47 student publications and 28 student organisations have been closed in the last year.
"They threatened me that if I talked to the media it might make things much worse for me," says Mehdi Aminzadeh, who has been banned from doing a masters in political science because he has been too active in politics.
"But if we keep silent it's easier for them to do the same things to other people," he says.
......But it is not just students who are angry - professors have also faced problems.
The new chancellor forcibly retired 45 teachers from Tehran University. He said they were past the retirement age, although they were younger than him.
"The majority of the retired teachers couldn't reach the standard of a full professor after 30 years of teaching at this university. They didn't manage to do any research to improve their position," Ayatollah Amid-Zanjani said.
"It seems this is the start of a project to clean the slate - to get rid of those intellectuals who are secular opponents of the government," says student activist Abdullah Momeni.
He believes the purge started after President Ahmadinejad spoke about the need to remove secular and liberal thought from the universities.

So much for freedom of speech, and freedom of expression, in an ISLAMIC paradise.


Only one objective conclusion can be made, and that is that ISLAM is a political [worldly] ideology, which seems to be designed ideally for the installation of despots, brigands and thugs.

The Mullahs Ruling Iran Are Not Iranians
by Amil Imani
11 Dec, 2006
....Islamic clergy, the parasitic prime beneficiaries of Islam, are master practitioners of the carrot and stick strategy. By drawing heavily from the Quran and the Hadith, the conniving mullahs and imams have assembled a potent arsenal of threats and promises to keep the faithful in line. They had little trouble in so doing, since Islamic scripture is replete with graphic horrific punishment awaiting the wayward and the unbelievers, while the rewards for the obedient docile, if he is male, are described as endless variety of sensual pleasures. Anyone daring to leave the corral of Islam is apostate and automatically condemned to death. And that’s just for starters. The punishment awaiting the ungrateful deserter of the one and only true path, Islam threatens, is a raft of horrific eternal torment in Allah’s hell.
http://www.islam-watch.org/AmilImani/RulingMullahsNotIranian.htm

and...
Iran arrests four women activists: news agency
(Reuters)
2 April 2007
TEHERAN - Four women’s rights activists were arrested on Monday for collecting signatures for a campaign demanding equal legal rights for women in Iran, an Iranian news agency reported.
The ILNA news agency said the women were collecting names for a so-called ‘one million signature campaign’ demanding changes in what activists say are discriminatory laws against women in the Islamic Republic.
......Iran denies discriminating against sexes and says its laws are based on Islamic sharia.
......Iran arrested more than 30 women activists last month when they protested outside a Teheran court in support of five other women detained last year. The authorities said it was an ‘unauthorised rally’.
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2007/April/middleeast_April46.xml&section=middleeast&col



Note that....
PLURALISM - so highly valued here in the West, is not tolerated by [unbridled] ISLAM.

But PLURALISM is, is, is, exploited, here in the West, against the West, by muslims living here in our communities.
But it is only used cynically, and only to further the encroachment of an aggressive and violent ISLAM into the West.







And we, are the foolish 'children' who welcome this ideology here, into the West.

HERE, IN THE WEST...
Our forefathers came before us.
Many of them through the ages, battled [at great cost] against oppression.
In recent centuries, many of them died, and 'struggled' for, the freedoms that we in the 'West' enjoy today.

Largely, we ourselves did not earn the freedoms, that we enjoy today.
We only inherited them, from those who sacrificed much, to obtain them.

There is a saying that,
"Something given, has no value."
How true that seems today, of our 'treasures' !

Make the people of past generations, who have died for our freedoms proud.
Get informed.


"We have the freedoms we fight for, and we lose those we don't defend."
    Salman Rushdie




If you live in the West, you are living in la-la land.

la-la land
· n. N. Amer. informal
1 Los Angeles or Hollywood, especially with regard to the film and television industry.
2 a dreamworld.
– ORIGIN la-la, reduplication of LA (i.e. Los Angeles).






Can't we just accomodate the needs of the 'radical' muslims among us?

Can't we just accomodate the needs of the 'radical' muslims among us?
If we show them our friendship and tolerance, won't they return that friendship - and tolerance?
If we give them what they want, wont they then be 'nice' to us?

For the sake of a peaceful life, can't we just appease the radical muslims among us?

In you dreams!!

Here in the West [2006],
many people still believe that reason will prevail.


Open your eyes!
[link]
Majority, political ISLAM, where it is found, is not a culture of co-existence - with 'others'.



Here, showing how the nice dhimmi at the,
New Jersey, Motor Vehicle Services Dept, USA,
can 'get along' with ISLAM.

If you look closely, the small print reads, 'This licence is not valid in Saudi Arabia.'
http://dinahlord.blogspot.com/2006/02/muslim-respect-and-tolerance.html

Respecting ISLAM, and its deceitful ways...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/019310.php

See also, the ignominy of the 'Burka retreat'.




Political ISLAM is a culture of conquest and subjugation.
ISLAM as a culture, and muslims, as a community of people are, determined to subjugate of all non-believers, who live among them.
Because,    ....ISLAM is 'superior'.

Don't be fooled by the words, .....the words about muslims embracing tolerance.
What muslims embrace [when politically weak] is pure expediency and duplicity.

Jihadists when they are politically weak, are 'nice' liars towards non-believers.
Jihadists when they grow strong [politically], then become vociferous in their words [example1, example2], and often violent towards non-believers.

Once it becomes politically dominant, ISLAM clearly reveals what it is...
....a culture of, intolerance, tyranny, and oppression.


This news report below, is one example of the evolution of 'co-existence' with a strong ISLAM.
Jihadists in Malaysia, growing in strength and confidence, are agitating for change, and for the local expression of a more hard line ISLAMIC society....

16 May 2006
Pressure on multi-faith Malaysia
Malaysia is considering its multi-cultural credentials after a crowd of Muslims on Sunday broke up a meeting called to defend the rights of religious minorities.
The country's leaders condemned the disturbances, but the BBC's Jonathan Kent in Kuala Lumpur says non-Muslims feel increasingly beleaguered.
"I'm becoming an alien in Malaysia, in my own country," says Dr Jacob George.
The president of the Consumers Association of Subang and Shah Alam in Selangor State has been helping to organise efforts to stop the local authorities in the ethnic Malay-Muslim dominated city of Shah Alam from demolishing a 107-year-old Hindu temple.
......In living memory it has had only two serious outbreaks of inter-communal violence; in 1946 and 1969. But lately, non-Muslims in Malaysia have expressed fears that the delicate balance between themselves and the majority may be shifting.
......"There's a creeping Islamicisation in our society and this isn't appropriate because we're a multi-religious, multi-racial country."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4965580.stm


Destruction of Non-Muslim Worship Centers Riles Faith Minorities in Malaysia
By Sean Yoong for AP:
April 01, 2007
PUTRAJAYA, Malaysia - The cavernous pink Putra Mosque with its soaring minaret is one of the most commanding sights and popular tourist photo backdrops in the new city of Putrajaya.
A house of worship for thousands of Muslims in the 8-year-old administrative capital of Malaysia, it is a showcase of the nation's dominant faith — Islam.
But the mosque also highlights the fact that Putrajaya doesn't have a single church or temple — a fact that minority Buddhists, Hindus and Christians see as one example of the second-class treatment other faiths get in this Muslim-majority country.
Religious minorities have long complained about obstacles in getting the government's permission to build places of worship in Malaysia. But their frustrations have grown amid recent accusations by religious rights activists that authorities are destroying non-Muslim shrines, heating up racial bitterness that has simmered for decades beneath a veneer of multicultural harmony.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015886.php
same story, different [originating] source...
http://christianpost.com/article/20070330/26613_Destruction_of_Non-Muslim_Worship_Centers_Riles_Faith_Minorities_in_Malaysia.htm


Church demolished in Muslim-run state [Malaysia]
June 19 2007
Kuala Lumpur - Authorities have demolished a church in a Muslim-ruled state in northeast Malaysia, sparking anger among the indigenous people who say they own the property, a religious official said on Tuesday.
Wong Kim Kong, a minister and secretary general of the National Evangelical Christian Fellowship of Malaysia, told AFP the wooden and brick church was torn down on June 8 by local district officials in Kelantan state.
"The authorities said they demolished the church because it was built without their permission," he said.
.....Malaysia's main Islamic opposition party, the Pan-Malaysia Islamic Party (PAS), rules Kelantan state.
Husam Musa, the state public administration and economic planning committee chairperson, said he had not received a report about the incident and could not comment.
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=126&art_id=nw20070619141302153C420344


December 7, 2007
Indonesia: Islamic groups secure closure of two churches
Fear of competition rather than confidence in the power of their message. Evidence of a tottering, bankrupt ideology.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019061.php



[link]
Abrogation of Koran verses

The ISLAMIC doctrine of 'Abrogation' means that, where there are contradictory statements in the Koran, the later verses 'abrogate' [nullify, replace] the former [now] contradictory verses.

Almost all of Allah's peaceful and conciliatory verses in the Koran were revealed to Muhammad in Mecca.
Significantly, this was in the period when Muhammad first began his death cult, and while Muhammad had, at most, a few score followers and when Muhammad was politically vulnerable.

It was later, in the 'Medina period', when almost all of Allah's uncompromising and violent revelations [for dealing with unbelievers] were revealed to Muhammad.
This was a time when Muhammad had many thousands of followers [i.e. when Muhammad was politically secure].
Convenient?

In weakness, the Chief PIRATE of ISLAM said,
'There is no compulsion in religion.',
'Be nice to unbelievers.'

In strength, the Chief PIRATE of ISLAM said,
'Kill anyone, everyone, who refuses to worship Allah alone!',
'....and my portion, as Allah's agent, is 1/5 th of the booty of war.'



There are some peaceful, conciliatory verses in the Koran.
And there are also many confrontational, and violent verses in the Koran.

Today, when speaking to unbelievers, muslims still refer to each 'type' of verse [including abrogated verses], as expediency dictates.
Today, all muslims will quote the peaceful Koranic verses [to unbelievers!] even though devout muslims know that those peaceful verses are 'abrogated', 'invalid' [for muslims].

Why?

Because all devout muslims opine that muslims are superior, and that the Kuffar are dumb [ignorant, 'guilty1', 'guilty2'], and that for muslims to use deception in their dealings with the Kuffar, is fair [towards the 'guilty'].

Muhammad himself, understood the importance of lying, to your [stronger] 'enemies',

The Prophet said, "War is deceit."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.268




But muslims will still insist that ISLAM is tolerant [of other faiths].

e.g. To 'prove' their 'tolerance' of other faiths, muslims will often point to the verse in Koran that states,

"There is no compulsion in religion,"
Koran 2:256

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/002.qmt.html#002.256


But this assertion of muslim tolerance of other faiths is, totally false.


The muslim tolerance of other faiths,  is only demonstratedis only expressed,  in those political jurisdictions where muslims are politically weak.

When muslims are politically weak, they behave toward unbelievers, in exactly the same way as Muhammad did [when he was politically weak].
With deceit.

In the inverse circumstance, where muslims are politically strong, there is no unencumbered tolerance of unbelievers.

In all Sharia jurisdictions, tolerance of unbelievers, is never demonstrated, or expressed [or rarely, or only for a specific political 'purpose'].
e.g. Witness 'the teddy bear incident' in the Sudan.
[Sometimes in muslim jurisdictions, tolerance of other faiths is 'official government policy', but the often 'on the ground' violent treatment, of 'unprotected' non-muslims, speaks to the muslim intent.]

see also,
Where ISLAM is politically strong


Read more, on this muslim tolerance claim, from a pro-ISLAM site [which again, quotes abrogated Koran verses. WHY?],

Quran and Hadith on Religious Persecution
No compulsion in religion
"This long list of verses from the Holy Quran and the Traditions of Prophet Muhammad (may peace be upon him) show that Islam at it's core and at its source is a religion of peace. Terrorists who persecute innocent people because of their faith are not welcome - their use of Islam as a scapegoat, does not make Islam what they portray it to be.
2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, "
http://www.themodernreligion.com/terror/terrorism_verses1.htm

see also,
'Abrogation', is the the official nullification of certain [often more peaceful], Koranic texts.
On the basis of a later 'revelation' by Allah, overriding an earlier 'revelation', on a particular subject.

This web page explores this Abrogation issue further.

And here, is clear explanation of how 'Abrogation', is REALLY applied, in the real world.








How are these ideas applied on the ground, by muslims?

"...words are but leaves, that blow away in a wind."

"There is no compulsion in religion," Koran 2:256.

Christian Convert Fights Malaysian Law
By EILEEN NG 05.27.2007
Lina Joy has been disowned by her family, shunned by friends and forced into hiding - all because she renounced Islam and embraced Christianity in Muslim-majority Malaysia.
Now, after a seven-year legal struggle, Malaysia's highest court will decide on Wednesday whether her constitutional right to choose her religion overrides an Islamic law that prohibits Malay Muslims from leaving Islam.
......Joy's case began in 1998 when, after converting, she applied for a name change on her government identity card. The National Registration Department obliged but refused to drop Muslim from the religion column.
She appealed the decision to a civil court but was told she must take it to Islamic Shariah courts. But Joy, 42, has argued that she should not be bound by Shariah law because she is a Christian.
.....Joy's decision to leave Islam sparked angry street protests by Muslim groups and led to e-mail death threats against Malik Imtiaz Sarwar, a Muslim lawyer supporting her. The widely circulated anonymous e-mail described him as a "traitor" to Islam and carried his picture with the caption "Wanted Dead."
....Muslim groups, however, say Joy is questioning the position of Islam by taking the case to the civil courts.
"It is not about one person, it is about challenging the Islamic system in Malaysia," said Muslim Youth Movement President Yusri Mohammad, who set up a coalition of 80 Islamic groups to oppose Joy's case.
"By doing this openly, she is encouraging others to do the same. It may open the floodgates to other Muslims because once it is a precedent, it becomes an option."
If Joy wins her case, he warned, it could rend Malaysia's multiracial fabric by fomenting Muslim anger against minorities, who have largely lived in peace with Malays.
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/05/27/ap3761905.html


Imagine the whining, if the converse [of the next story] were to apply to muslims in any Western country...

"There is no compulsion in religion," Koran 2:256.

12 November 2007
Egypt 'denies minority beliefs'
Rights groups have criticised Egypt for forcing converts from Islam and members of some minority faiths to lie about their true beliefs in official papers.
Egyptians over 16 must carry ID cards showing religious affiliation. Muslim, Christian and Jew are the only choices.
.....The BBC's Heba Saleh in Cairo says that without the all-important IDs, members of minorities face enormous problems in education and employment. [...if they are not 'officially' muslim.]
.....Human Rights Watch (HRW) also highlights the plight of other Egyptians who complain that they have been designated as Muslims against their will.

....."Ministry of interior officials apparently believe that they have the right to choose someone's religion when they don't happen to like the religion that person, him or herself, has chosen," said Human Rights Watch's Joe Stork.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7091412.stm


Intolerant muslims in Pakistan incensed at Christian worship, Allah is offended.
Claims by muslims that a Christian made offensive remarks against Koran, and against the Chief PIRATE of ISLAM, and must pay with his life.

"There is no compulsion in religion," Koran 2:256.

05/31/2007 10:15
PAKISTAN
Another Christian condemned to death for blasphemy, without any proof
....Masih’s lawyer explains that “the sentence is based on nothing.  Evidence based on the hearsay of Muslims only serves to have a man killed”. The lawyer went on to explain the dynamics of the case: “Christians had arranged a spiritual gathering at Chungi Ammarsidhu in September 9, 2005, at which a neighbour had objected”. Abdul Aziz, a plaintiff in the case began an argument with Masih “demanding that they perform Islamic rituals instead of Christian rites. The argument turned hot during, and two days later the charges of blasphemy were laid”.
In any case, “we are preparing to appeal the sentence.  Now we must only hope that nothing happens to us, because we have already received various death threats, and then, we intend to bring this to Lahore High Court, to ask for justice”.
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=9415&geo=2&size=A


"There is no compulsion in religion," Koran 2:256.

Indonesia Sentences 41 Christian To Five Years Imprisonment
Thursday, 01 November 2007
By Stefan J. Bos
JAKARTA, INDONESIA (BosNewsLife)-- An Indonesian court has sentenced 41 Christian leaders to five years imprisonment on charges of blasphemy because they openly prayed that Muslims "come to know Christ,"
http://www.bosnewslife.com/news/3253-breaking-news-indonesia-sentences-41-christia










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When dealing with Jihadists....
Don't!

Kuffar should not make 'fair-weather' covenants with devout muslims,
to secure [a temporary] 'Peace'.



Jihadists will make covenants when it is to their advantage.

Similarly, Jihadists will break covenants when it is to their advantage.

Deception is a part of their philosophy of life,
deception is the
Jihadist 'way' in this life.


The justification for Jihadists breaking oaths, covenants, is set out in the philosophy that permeates the Koran.

Note that [below] the Koranic logic for this 'ease' of covenant breaking is based on their [concealed] utter contempt for 'others' - especially non-believers...

Koran 4:142
Surely the hypocrites strive to deceive Allah. He shall retaliate by deceiving them.

Koran 5:41
Whomever Allah wants to deceive you cannot help. Allah does not want them to know the truth because he intends to disgrace them and then torture them.

Koran 8:30
Remember how the unbelievers plotted against you (Muhammad). They plotted, and Allah too had arranged a plot; but Allah is the best schemer.

Koran 9:1

This is a declaration of immunity by Allah and His Messenger towards those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement (treaty).
2 So go about in the land for four months and know that you cannot weaken Allah and that Allah will bring disgrace to the unbelievers.


Koran 9:3
And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger to the people on the day of the greater pilgrimage that Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters; therefore if you (disbelievers) repent, it will be better for you, and if you turn back, then know that you will not weaken Allah; and announce painful punishment to those who disbelieve.
(Meaning) Allah is not bound by any contract or treaty with non-Muslims, nor is His Apostle.


Koran 66:2

Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows.

Bukhari:V7B67N427
The Prophet said, "If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath.".

Ishaq:365, Tabari VII:94
Muhammad bin Maslamah said, "O Messenger, we shall have to tell lies." , "Say what you like," Muhammad replied. "You are absolved, free to say whatever you must."

Bukhari:V5B59N369
"Allah's Apostle said, 'Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?' Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslamah got up saying, 'O Allah's Apostle! Would you like me to kill him?' The Prophet said, 'Yes,' Maslamah said, 'Then allow me to say false things in order to deceive him.' The Prophet said, You may say such things.'"

Tabari VIII:23
"The Messenger and his Companions continued in the fear and distress that Allah has described in the Qur'an. Then Nu'aym came to the Prophet. 'I've become a Muslim, but my tribe does not know of my Islam; so command me whatever you will.' Muhammad said, 'Make them abandon each other if you can so that they will leave us; for war is deception.'"

Koran 33:21
You have in (Muhammad) the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern of conduct for any one to follow.

Indeed?

and this next news report, shows how covenant breaking is applied [even against their fellow muslims!]...

January 27, 2007
"If they pay we kill them anyway"
This story explains in microcosm why, contrary to what Dinesh D'Souza assumes, even cleaning up American pop culture will not end the jihad, which proceeds for reasons that spring from within Islam, and not as a reaction to outside outrages -- although those outrages are used as a pretext for recruitment purposes. Mutatis mutandis, after we become a decent, upright, moral people, the "traditional Muslims" of which D'Souza speaks won't become our allies. Their jihadist brethren will kill -- or subjugate -- us anyway.
......In this case, he said, the men were taken to Sadr City, the Shia slum to the north-east of Baghdad, where they were interrogated by a "committee" which ordered their execution. "We ask the families of the terrorists for ransom money," said Fadhel. "And after they pay the ransom we kill them anyway."
Kidnapping in Baghdad these days is as much about economics as retribution or sectarian hatred. Another Shia man close to the Mahdi Army told me: "They kidnap 10 Sunnis, they get ransom on five, and kill them all, in each big kidnap operation they make at least $50 000, it's the best business in Baghdad."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014997.php


and here, another example of, dis-honour among,   ....Jihadists of a different 'feather'....

Jihadists - are covenant breakers.

and...

Another abduction - An example of a Jihadist covenant of convenience with an un-ISLAMIC 'friend'. [...a friendship which expired when the 'convenience' expired!]


another classic example, a Jihadist 'truce',
Pakistan, 2007,
15 July 2007
Pakistan militants end truce deal
Pro-Taleban militants in Pakistan's North Waziristan region say they have ended their truce with the government.
In a statement issued in Miranshah, the main town, the militants accused the government of breaking the agreement.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6899621.stm


6 April 2007
Islamabad faces suicide bomb call
The head of a radical mosque in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, has threatened to use suicide bomb attacks against the government.
Maulana Abdul Aziz made his defiant call to thousands of followers during Friday prayers.
....."If the government says it will launch an operation against us as a last resort, our last resort will be suicide bombings," Mr Aziz told his supporters.
"What is our way?" he asked them, the Associated Press news agency reports.
The students called back, "Jihad, jihad (holy war)".
.....On Thursday hundreds of human rights activists staged a protest calling for action against activities of the two madrassas - one for men, one for women - attached to the mosque.

They said the madrassa students were "harassing and terrorising ordinary citizens of Pakistan in the name of Islam".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6532825.stm

3 July 2007
Profile: Islamabad's Red Mosque
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6503477.stm

July 14, 2007
Bin Laden’s deputy behind the Red Mosque bloodbath
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017378.php

July 15, 2007
Jihadists kill 38 in northwest Pakistan
"Militants in the Afghan border region disavowed a 10-month old truce with the government." Sounds like the truce has served its purpose for the jihadists' interests, and things are going rather well for them now in those territories. Hence, the truce is off, and for many, the Lal Masjid [Red Mosque] raid may have been the excuse they were waiting for.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017389.php


Always remember that....
Jihadists will make covenants when it is to their advantage.
Similarly, Jihadists will break covenants when it is to their advantage.




What hope have Kuffar got, of making 'good' covenants with Jihadists, if Jihadists will not even honour covenants with 'their own'?

You can not make a pact with a wicked person - and ever expect that an agreement will be honoured by such a person.

When Jihadists deceive others, Jihadists tell themselves, and anyone else who will listen, that Allah is fighting for them, in deceiving the Harbi.
In the eyes of Jihadists, it is Allah himself who blinds the non-believers to the truth - and NOT the deception and lies of the Jihadists.

In their own eyes, Jihadists see themselves as honourable men.
While many, many, others, see Jihadists as sick and evil psychopaths.










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A solution to ISLAMIC inspired terrorism???

1st, let us more clearly define the problem!

We have a 'devil' in our midst.
Or SATAN himself, if you will!

Bear with me a moment, as i explore this statement above, metaphorically.

What do i mean by this?

I mean that....
'SATAN' is the evil we allow into our hearts, and give expression to [rage!].

Hence the common use of the old phrase... "He's got the devil in him!" , in describing a person who is... enraged , and then acts out his rage, to the cost of all those around him!
And this, to me, sounds exactly like ISLAM in the world today!

Our forefathers knew this phrase... "He's got the devil in him!" , and our forefathers were not so dumb as we today would imagine !
Perhaps our forefathers did not have the knowledge that we today have accumulated.
But our forefathers had their own 'wisdom' !

This phrase, "He's got the devil in him!", perfectly describes metaphorically [today] - what our forefathers suspected was, or believed to be, an actual condition of the personality.

And if we accept that a display of extreme rage, can translate to describing a person metaphorically as having the devil in them, a 'SATAN' even! , then...

Who   is   the great SATAN of today, in this world today?
What 'culture', and what political ideology, in this world today, most clearly gives expression to evil, by the suppression of the freewill of others, by acts of extreme rage, and by acts of unspeakable evil [the murder of innocents]?

Shall i remind you once more, with a particular news story...
"On Friday, hardline cleric Sheikh Abubakar Hassan Malin told worshippers at his mosque to hunt down and kill whoever offended the Prophet Mohammed."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/5353850.stm
and perhaps one more...
Newspaper article in Farsi about Atefah's execution
Atefah Sahaaleh: wrongly described as being 22 years old
 Teenage execution
The 16-year-old girl hanged in Iran for crimes against chastity

...arrested by the morality police...When she returned to her home town, she told those close to her that lashes were not the only things she had to endure in prison. She described abuse by the moral police guards.

See also, same girl...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atefah_Sahaaleh

Yes, ISLAM is the great SATAN in the world today!
And the servants of this 'SATAN' [the 'facilitators' of this 'SATAN'], are the Jihadists.
These people, the Jihadists, are pure evil!


AND WHAT IS THE SOLUTION???

What did our forefathers do, with an individual who, "...has the devil in him! " ?
[i.e. a person who was continually enraged - INSANE WITH HATE!]
They commonly banished those persons - for the safety of the community.

And i would suggest that this, is what we in the West should do, with ISLAM.
We should totally expel from the West, all persons who profess ISLAM as 'the true faith'!
Expulsion from the West.





But there is an alternative to this of course....

You and i   [and every other soul in the 'West' ! ]   could convert to ISLAM, because...

When the whole world submits to ISLAM - then there will be peace.
[This is a lie of course. There will be no peace, when SATAN has total control of this world!]
the future





Putting a contrary, PLURALIST, argument...

Wouldn't it be extremely intolerant and immoderate to expel muslims from the West, or anyone for that matter, on the basis of their faith?
Aren't you exposing your prejudices here, for all to see?
Don't you abhor intolerance?
And i thought that you were a PLURALIST?
Wouldn't such a policy make us, here in the West, just as bad as the worst of those intolerant ISLAMISTS?
Aren't we in the West, an inclusive and tolerant culture, isn't inclusiveness and tolerance what we are about?


And my reply...

The problem is, that ISLAM is not a tolerant co-culture, to the West.
ISLAM [where it is present in the West] is a '5th column' within a host.
And i repeat what i stated above, ISLAM is not a religion, it is a political ideology focused intently on the hate of anyone who demonstrates any resistance to its influence.
And, ISLAM is a political ideology focused intently, and actively on the WORLDLY, and POLITICAL subjugation of individuals, and of all cultures that it encounters.

For a moment, think of ISLAM, as an aggressive cancer - within a host.

I am sure that you can agree that, even nice people sometimes get cancer.
If YOU got cancer, is it better for you to just resign yourself to your fate and,    ....die of the cancer?
Alternatively, being the PLURALIST that you are, do you feel that it would be too 'mean' and intolerant to try to 'remove' the cancer - which you are 'hosting'?

Or, do you want to 'fight back' - and try to survive [the cancer]?

Still not convinced?
Can i ask you; Have you ever had an 'inclusive' and tolerant relationship with hemlock?
Well, perhaps you should try!




READ THESE ARTICLES...
Fitzgerald: Islam for Infidels, Part One
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004628.php

and...
Islam In Summary
http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/2005_12_01_libertyandculture_archive.html


and...
Is Islam Evil?
http://www.liberty-and-culture.com/pages/2/index.htm

and...
Islam was born with the idea that it should rule the world.
http://www.therefinersfire.org/agenda_of_islam.htm

and...
Will Muslim Immigration Destroy Western Democracy?
http://www.annaqed.com/english/politics/will_muslim_immigration_destroy_western_democracy.html




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The news articles immediately below are some stories i have found
reflecting a resistance
in the our communities,
to the ISLAMISATION of the West.



Danish Victory: Radical Imam Leaves!
From the desk of Filip van Laenen on Fri, 2006-11-10
one comment made on this link page...
"The Qur'an is nothing more than a Users manual for the take over of other cultures."
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1643
This comment [in item above] worth meditating upon.



Danes' Anti-Immigrant Backlash Marks Radical Shift
story... by Sylvia Poggioli
November 20, 2006
Sculptor/welder Charlotte Steem lives in Christiania, a Danish commune where freedom of speech is espoused. She says the violence with which some Muslims reacted to the Mohammed cartoons has undermined many of her convictions.
Europe Tilts Right
A mood of nationalist introspection is sweeping over Europe. The Sept. 11 attacks, the bombings in Madrid and London, and the controversy over Danish Mohammed cartoons, are producing an anti-immigrant backlash bordering on xenophobia.
Sylvia Poggioli has an overview.

Karen Jespersen, a former Danish interior minister in charge of immigration, co-authored the country's No. 1 best-seller Islamists and Naivists. She says the Islamic radicals' goal is the Islamization of Europe.
.....Despite promoting Europe's harshest immigration law, the DPP rejects being identified with the racism and anti-Semitism associated with French ultra right-wing politician Jean-Marie Le Pen. It's radical Islam, Espersen says, that today represents the extreme right.
.....Jespersen, a feminist and a former interior minister in charge of immigration issues, says the radicals' goal is the Islamization of Europe. When she was in government, many Muslims told her they were not free to adapt to Western society.
"In the parallel society, they use the term 'Muslim police,'" she says. "They are trying to control the more moderate Muslims. If they see their daughters talking to boys, then they go to the fathers and say, 'I saw your girl talking to a boy, and how can you let her? You have to stop it immediately.'"
......Khader says many Muslims in Europe want to break their ties with their land of origin and declare their loyalty to their new Western homelands.
"But the Islamists don't like this," he says. "They want the mullahs and imams in Muslim countries [to] decide what the Muslims in Europe should do."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6505809

Note this quote from the previous news item...
"....the DPP rejects being identified with the racism and anti-Semitism associated with....."

About the 'racism' tag being used by ISLAMIST's, against their critics, see also "There are only two races in the world,...."


Danish wake-up call on Islam
By Dan Bilefsky International Herald Tribune
September 25, 2006
COPENHAGEN
On Sept. 5, the day Danish police arrested nine Muslim suspects in connection with a foiled terrorist plot, a slender book warning of conquest by Islamic fundamentalists in Europe appeared in bookstores here.

 "Islamists and Naivists," by Karen Jespersen and Ralf Pittelkow, has since risen to the top of the best-seller list and is causing a sensation in Denmark - in part because the authors are establishment figures previously known for their progressive attitudes toward Islam and integration.
 The book is also gaining notice because Denmark, a country celebrated for its fairy tales, is on the front line of the culture wars between Islam and the West following publication in a Danish newspaper late last year of cartoons lampooning the Prophet Muhammad.
 The book's main argument is that Europeans who ignore the threat posed by Islamists belong to a new and dangerous tribe of "naivists," a term coined by the authors. This may not sound so radical at a time when the pope has upset the Islamic world by quoting a medieval passage calling Islam "evil and inhuman" and when Islamic terrorist plots have put Europe on edge.
But the book also equates Islamic fundamentalists with Nazis and Communists - a provocative stand on the heels of the cartoon crisis, which strengthened a backlash against immigrants that was already brewing here.
Muslim leaders here have denounced the book, accusing Pittelkow and Jespersen of giving Muslim-bashing a respectable face in Denmark, a country that views itself as a tolerant and open society.
 
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/09/25/news/denmark.php


Many muslims in the West complain of our Islamophobia [complain of our resistance to ISLAMISATION!!], the solution is in their own muslim hands...
December 03, 2006
In U.S., fear and distrust of Muslims runs deep
Efforts will be stepped up, as if they weren't already in full swing, to convince Americans that any Muslim who commits violence in the name of Islam is not a genuine Muslim, and that the genuine article is peaceful, peaceful, peaceful. And tolerant. One problem with such "education" efforts is that they do nothing to prevent "genuine" Muslims from turning without warning into "false" ones.
Do Muslims in America really want to decrease fear and mistrust directed toward them? Easy. Just follow these four simple steps:
1, 2, 3, 4.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014284.php

It appears there is something of a disconnect between what non-Muslim society considers `radical Islam and terrorism' and how a substantial part of Muslim society   [in the West]   defines those terms.
...It's only a matter of time until most reasonable people are going to assume that any kind of rational dialogue with Muslims to try and resolve these issues is simply a waste of time, and the way to deal with the problem is unilateral action.
The sad part is that many peaceful, hardworking and good people who happen to be Muslims are going to get caught up in that nasty maelstrom...because too many of them lack the courage to speak up and out the jihadis in their midst hiding among them.

http://joshuapundit.blogspot.com/2006/09/british-home-secretary-shouted-down.html


September 10, 2006
Englands Cognitive Dissonance
Britons have finally awakened to the fact that they have a serious problem in their midst.

According to a recent Telegraph YouGov poll, 53% of Britons view Islam as a threat to society. The penny has dropped that there might be some connection between last summer's tube bombings and the recently uncovered plot to blow up ten or more planes mid-Atlantic -- and that connection is the religion of the perpetrators or would-be perpetrators.
The average Englishman, it would seem, has a good deal firmer handle on reality than Deputy Commissioner Paul Stephenson of the Metropolitan Police, who described the bombing plot as a "criminal" act having nothing to do with "communities." The most the politically correct Stephenson would concede was that the plotters are "people who might masquerade in the community, hiding behind certain faiths."
No, they are not hiding behind their faith. It is their burning religious fervor that pushes them to act as they do. A young English-born couple who planned to blow up one airliner by igniting their six-month-old baby's bottle of formula are not your run-of-the-mill criminals. And they are not hiding behind their religion. They are products of their religion, and they share the religious fanaticism of all those suicide bombers in Israel, Iraq, and a dozen other places around the globe.
.....The goals of Reactionary Islam are twofold. The first is to prevent any Moslem country from moving towards democracy in any form, and the second is to spread the rule of Islam over the entire globe.
http://www.aish.com/societyWork/society/Englands_Cognitive_Dissonance.asp

















If you will take a look inside ISLAM, then the two part 'precept' that is in ISLAM will become clear...
Again and again we come across the notion that...

"A good Muslim (1) follows the Koran and the Koran clearly states to (2) kill or subdue all nonbelievers."
'American Crusader', [accurate] comment on  http://libertyandculture.blogspot.com/


"....honor and pride can only come from jihad and martyrdom."


Are you concerned about these issues?
Your Parliamentary [govt] representatives are the ones who can change things.
But will they?
That is up to you.

Get in contact with your local Parliamentary [govt] representative, and express any concerns you may have.
http://www.aph.gov.au/house/members/

Need to know more about ISLAM?
Use Google and a few well chosen keywords.



This rant is about an evil supremacist ideology...

ISLAM

This rant is NOT about race, but it is about the politics of culture.






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According to devout muslims....
the worst of ISLAMIC bigots,
is better than the best of non-muslims.

[paraphrasing Andrew Bolt, http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20690632-5006029,00.html]



Devout muslims are the most bigoted people alive on the planet today [in my opinion].
In fact, devout muslims are psychotic homicidal bigots !
[see, 'takfir', see, Death cult]




Muslims
[living in non-Sharia jurisdictions] will  claim  they are 'tolerant',
and many non-muslims [in those
same jurisdictions] willingly believe them.

But muslims
[living in non-Sharia jurisdictions] always say 'nice' things [usually about themselves],
like, 'We muslims are very tolerant people'.




But the TRUTH is...

Muslims  portraying  themselves as 'tolerant' within non-Sharia jurisdictions,
is a total sham, it is deceit, is disingenuous, it is a fraud.

 Why won't muslims display, demonstrate, their 'tolerance', in
Sharia jurisdictions ???
examples1, examples2, examples3many more available!


But myself, i am accused of 'intolerance', of 'bigotry' [because i express truthful words, and show actual accounts],
describing muslim  actions  [
and actual bigotry!], done in the name of ISLAM.


Dictionary definition:

bigot /"bIg@t/
· n. a person who is prejudiced in their views and intolerant of the opinions of others.
– DERIVATIVES bigoted adj. bigotry n.
– ORIGIN C16: from Fr., of unknown origin.




Bigots are people who are, "....
intolerant of the opinions of others."

Is that clear?



So, according to muslims [and their friends], myself, and people like me,
are '
bigots' [because we have opinions, and because we 'shine a light' on ISLAM],
and we should not be allowed to have, or express, an opinion, critical of ISLAM.


That sounds like bigotry to me!


But, it  is  OK for muslims to express their 'opinions'.






We live in dangerous times,
when a man may not express his opinion,
because of fear, or
because of actual oppression,
because of that opinion.


Where a person cannot express dissent, or criticism,
there is no freedom,
only tyranny.











Because of a self perceived MUSLIM 'SUPERIORITY', any scrutiny of muslim [action] is portrayed by muslims, as 'illegal'...

Non-muslims calling muslim rapists ** , ...rapists, is 'RACIST'
Non-muslims calling muslim murderers, ...murderers, is 'RACIST'
Scrutiny of the failings of ISLAM, by non-muslims, is wrong, and 'RACIST'
Scrutiny of ISLAMIC clerics, and scrutiny of what they preach, is 'RACIST'
Accusing muslims of endorsing, and living, a supremacist ideology, is 'RACIST'
Scrutiny and condemnation of violent ISLAMIC culture, by non-muslims, is 'RACIST'
Actions taken by non-muslims to protect their person, and culture, from violent muslims, is 'RACIST'
Accusing [violent and complicit] muslims, living in Western host nations of being traitors, is 'RACIST'

[pick one of the statements above]
No, it is not!

Racism is about Racism.
It is not about lying, deceitful, violent, muslims 'spinning',
...about lying, deceitful, violent, ISLAM.

ISLAM is not a 'race', but a lying, hate filled, political philosophy.

Devout muslims often will, accuse their critics, their critics, their critics, of being racists.

Again,   ....ISLAM is not a race.

Yet in their own [duplicitous] eyes,
muslims consider   themselves   to be 'superior' to 'un-ISLAMIC' persons.

For example, in a Sharia court, non-muslims are prohibited from giving evidence against muslims.

In any Sharia jurisdiction, in any dispute with a Kuffar, a muslim wins -
because in the eyes of muslims, muslims are superior, and all non-muslims are 'guilty', so no contest.

'Muslims are superior'.
...PERIOD.
[link]
The Dhimmi: An Overview
".......No legal rights. Jews may not testify in
[a Sharia] court against a Muslim
and have no legal right to dispute or challenge anything done to them by Muslims.

There is no such thing as a Muslim raping a Jewish woman;
there is no such thing as a Muslim murdering a Jew (at most, it can be manslaughter).

In contrast, a Jew who strikes a Muslim is killed."

http://www.dhimmi.com/dhimmi_overview.htm
http://www.dhimmi.com/victimsgallery.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia#Treatment_of_non-Muslims
http://answering-islam.org/NonMuslims/rights.htm
http://www.dhimmi.com/dhimmilinks.htm

"......A Muslim man commits rape if and only if he has sex with a Muslim woman out of wedlock.
Having forced sex with an infidel woman does not at all constitute rape, Islamically speaking
."
"......The natural conclusion is that Muslim men are completely free to Islamically rape these infidel women,
if these whores fall in Muslim men's hands."

http://islam-watch.org/AbulKasem/MeatImam.htm
an 'ex-muslim' web site, critical of ISLAM

Follow this link...This young woman was raped - Did she 'deserve' it?

To the devout muslim mind - any depravity, any barbarity, is OK,
IF, IF, it is sanctified in the Koran or Hadith .
Forced sex with captured Kuffar women is not rape,      ......because they are 'slaves'!...
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=26441_Ummah.com-_Is_It_OK_to_Kill_Children_and_Rape_Women&only

Another excellent article here, exploring the workings of eye-popping ISLAMIC logic,
which justifies fighting against the 'aggression' [read, existence!] of Kuffar...

".....Since a refusal to submit to sharia is a rebellion against Allah,
the very existence of non-Muslim communities can be viewed as an act of aggression."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/012406.php

To a muslim [to a Jihadist], a muslim can not do   anything,   that is 'wrong' ,
in their dealings with non-believers [i.e. those who are un-ISLAMIC], because, again   ....'muslims are superior',
and all non-muslims are 'guilty' [because they are,    ...non-muslim].
example 1, example 2, example 3

Is there any Sharia punishment when a muslim kills a non-believer?
ISLAMIC tradition, scripture, and Sharia law say's that there is no 'equality' in punishment to be applied!
Muslims are superior!
If a muslim should kill a non-muslim it is never murder, in the sight of Allah...

Bukhari Hadith Volume 9, Book 83, Number 50:
......"The legal regulations of Diya (Blood-money) and the (ransom for) releasing of the captives,
and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a Kafir (disbeliever)."

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/083.sbt.html#009.083.050

Bukhari Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 283:
"What is written in this paper?"......
".......the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel."

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.283


Muslims are taught by their clerics, and have a psychology, a self perception, of 'superiority' over 'un-ISLAMIC' persons,
because their ISLAMIC clerics tell them that Allah has said as much, "Muslims are superior!", it is Koranic...

Koran 3:110
Ye
[muslims] are the best community that hath been raised up for mankind.
Ye enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency; and ye believe in Allah.
And if the People of the Scripture
[Jews and Christians] had believed it had been better for them.
Some of them are believers; but most of them are evil-livers.


Within any Sharia jurisdiction it is not unlawful for a muslim to shed the blood of an [a 'guilty'] unbeliever.
Saying this, muslims will tolerate 'un-ISLAMIC' persons [who have rejected ISLAM] while they are useful* to muslims,
[* useful, in the same way that a blood bank is useful to Dracula.]
  Example 1
Example 2, "Every American man is an enemy to us." Osama bin Laden.   ....Yet OBL was not averse to giving interviews to U.S. journalists.
But otherwise, these non-muslims are to be treated as, 'the vilest of animals'. [i.e. all un-ISLAMIC persons are 'worthy' of death].



Are you un-ISLAMIC persons   'Getting the message.'   yet??

...ISLAMIST's, Jihadists, are PSYCHOTIC, destructive human beings,
driven by an 'evil', and a hatred, of everything which they do not have control of!
i.e.
Everything which is un-ISLAMIC.



ISLAM, is a disgrace, and a fraud!


[link]
"There are only two races in the world,
the decent and the indecent
."
Victor Frankl - Nazi Holocaust survivor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Frankl


               
http://www.zionism-israel.com/ezine/IsllamReligionofPeace.htm

Think about it.

What these protesters above are demanding - is that
hard-won liberties,
which these protesters are exploiting, which these protesters are abusing, should be abolished!


What is, TRUTH?...
"....the truth is just the truth. It is not bigoted or multicultural or blue or green, it is just reality.

The truth does not become false because some people say it is bigoted.
If it is true that Islam has core traditions of violence and supremacism,
and that the jihadists use them to promote violence,

then it does no favor to peaceful Muslims to pretend that they don't exist.
Rather, it becomes all the more urgent to point them out,
so as to aid those peaceful Muslims in genuine efforts at Islamic reform.

You cannot reform what you are pretending does not need reform."
FALSEHOOD...
"....Islam....really is a continuation of Judaism and Christianity."
[comment: 'pap' from, Dr. Khalid Iqbal, a muslim propagandist, spreading yet more
Taqiyya.]
TRUTH...
"Dr. Iqbal does not seem to have informed his listeners that Islam is
not solely
[c
omment: ISLAM does not regard iteslf, as...] a "continuation" of Judaism and Christianity,
but a replacement and repudiation of them,
since only "unbelievers"
[
Christians
] believe in the divinity of Christ (Qur'an 5:17)
and both Jews and Christians
are [comment: regarded by all devout muslims as...] accursed of Allah (Qur'an 9:30).
I suspect that Dr. Iqbal and others would accuse me of "promoting tension and hatred" by mentioning these things,
but nota bene: they are in the Qur'an, and those verses are not rejected or abrogated;
they form part of core, mainstream Muslim belief about Judaism and Christianity."
September 9, 2007
Ohio mosque tour clears up misconceptions about Islam!

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/018096.php


TRUTH...
All devout muslims know that ISLAM calls for the murder of all un-ISLAMIC persons who reject ISLAM.
Un-ISLAMIC persons being, all persons who reject ISLAM's authority over their lives, irrespective of their race.
[...even un-ISLAMIC 'muslim' people qualify!]


"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil."
Thomas Mann
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Mann


some thoughtful quotes...
THE WAR ON TERROR & ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISM


There is another compelling placard image here...
"British police go to hell"
"Four Muslim protesters have been jailed for a total of 22 years for inciting murder and racial hatred
as dozens of their supporters chanted and brandished anti-Western placards outside court."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017436.php
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=469285&in_page_id=1770


[link]
From its inception ISLAM has been the same, NOTHING has changed....
...ISLAM
is philosophically, and morally, so weak it, cannot [will not!] sustain or accept any criticism.
And ISLAM has good reason in wanting to silence its critics - it has no rational defence, for its 'holy' acts of violence and barbarism.
Below an account of, and in the time of, the chief PIRATE himself, 7th century,...

The Death of `Asma' Bint Marwan
Abstract
In Yathrib (Medina), Muhammad had a number of people killed. One of them was `Asma' bint Marwan. Her crime was that she spoke out against Muhammad for having another man murdered named Abu Afak. In his displeasure towards her, Muhammad asked his followers to murder her as well. She was killed while she slept.
..... After Muhammad came to Yathrib he began to grow in power. However, a number of people, both Jew and Arab, opposed him. Muhammad began to silence his opposition by various means. One of these means was to have them murdered.
Muhammad did have a number of enemies and critics, some were dangerous, others were ordinary people who lived in the area and thought nil of Muhammad. They spoke their minds.
One by one, they were silenced. Through treaties, intrigue, or outright terror, Muhammad gained power in Medina. Eventually, he was master of the area. He knew his followers loved him, and would die for him. They were at his disposal; and at times, he chose to use them to accomplish his desires.
PRESENTATION OF ISLAMIC SOURCES....
[coninues at source link]
.....CONCLUSION
We know that there are good and bad in all religions, but this case is different. This event reflects upon the man who started Islam: Islam is built upon Muhammad's words and deeds. We see here that Muhammad had a woman brutally murdered. She was killed because she spoke out against him, and became more of a nuisance, not a legitimate threat. Further, Muhammad had no legal right to kill her. He took the situation into his own hands and had her murdered. Muhammad felt that this murder was helping God; he felt no guilt, or sense of repentance.
Jesus condemned those who murdered unrepentedly ... "Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood" Revelation 22:15. Muhammad falls into that category. How then, can this man Muhammad be a real prophet of God?
http://www.answering-islam.de/Main/Muhammad/Enemies/asma.html

from the article above,
"....She was killed while she slept."

NOT the Koran...
2 Samuel 4:11
How much more, when wicked men have slain a righteous person in his own house upon his bed? shall I not therefore now require his blood of your hand, and take you away from the earth?

more on this topic...
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=mohammad+assassinate+poetess&spell=1

But this would never happen today - right?

'Today's peace-loving muslims would never allow the incitement to murder, of persons critical of ISLAM.'
'There would be street protests by outraged muslims!!'

Wouldn't there be???

In the historic account above, the chief pirate procured the murder of a critical poetess in the 7th century.
And he [the chief pirate] is the high point of the muslim example of behaviour [according to the inerrant Koran], so, if ISLAM encounters another troublesome poetess in 2007, there is only one course to follow...

A poetess in 2007 has a fatwa bounty placed on her head [literally!]...
"Contract killers wanted - good pay! See your local muslim clerics, Northern India.     2007, May 23rd"

And this incitement to murder [in Northern India] is fully justifiable [to the devout muslim mind] because the inerrant Koran, say's...

Koran 33:21
Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah
[the chief pirate] a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for any one whose hope is in Allah and the Final Day, and who engages much in the Praise of Allah.




The suppression of any dissent, of any criticism of ISLAM, continues today, 21st century.
I feel certain that Haleh Esfandiari [in the news report below] would already be dead, if she was not such an internationally prominent person...

14 May 2007
Iran admits detaining [Iranian born] US academic
Haleh Esfandiari is one of the leading US authorities on Iran - image caption
Iran's foreign ministry has confirmed that the government has detained a leading Iranian-American academic.
Spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini said the arrest of Haleh Esfandiari was lawful and she would be treated like other Iranian nationals.
Ms Esfandiari, one of Washington's best known Iran experts, was visiting Tehran to see her 93-year-old mother.
.....Iran's Kayhan newspaper has accused Ms Esfandiari of spying for the US and Israel and of trying to incite a democratic revolution in the country.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6652533.stm



Potential political dissent, is un-ISLAMIC   'THOUGHTCRIME'   in Allah's ISLAMIC paradise....

June 1, 2007
Talk to foreigners and we will view you as a spy, Iran warns academics
"Some scholars claim spying allegations are a pretext to purge universities of those deemed too liberal or pro-western." Cracking down on thoughtcrime in Iran.
......"I have been told that my services will not be required in the next academic year, even though I am not close to retirement age and they need lecturers in my field," one social scientist, who has taught in the US, told the Guardian. "I was told that I was in touch with quite a few foreign academics and travelled abroad quite frequently to lectures and, therefore, I was a suspicious person. They warned that if I followed it up and created publicity, they would make more trouble for me and even threatened my family. It's terrible. For the first time in my life I have the feeling I'm living in a police state. I think things will get worse before they get better."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016709.php

see also....
'Mass purges' at Iran universities, after dissent.

Thoughtcrime in the George Orwell novel, '1984'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime#Thought_Police







Want to hear a good 'Jewish joke' by
Hassan Nasrallah [the Hezbollah #1 in Lebanon]?
In Lebanon's Daily Star [October 23 2002] he said,
"If they (the Jews) all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide."
http://www.eyeonislam.com/true-islam-the-plan/

All muslims had a good laugh.






"There is no beauty like Jerusalem,
no wealth like Rome,
no depravity like Arabia."

3rd century AD observation - by a Jewish person?






When the truth dies, very bad things happen.
    Tripping - Robbie Williams






To suggest that we should not confront this 'ISLAM' issue is a mistake.





The trouble with Islam - part 1

Enough hate in the World





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