2006-Dec-27

The trouble with 'muslims' - WHO ARE NOT [muslims]!

First, lets read a Psalm, to set the mood...

Psalms 120:1
¶<<A Song of degrees.>> In my distress I cried unto the LORD, and he heard me.

2  Deliver my soul, O LORD, from lying lips, and from a deceitful tongue.
3  What shall be given unto thee? or what shall be done unto thee, thou false tongue?
4  Sharp arrows of the mighty, with coals of juniper.
5  ¶Woe is me, that I sojourn in Mesech, that I dwell in the tents of Kedar!
6  My soul hath long dwelt with him that hateth peace.
7  I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war.


This above, is the whole of Psalm 120.
This Psalm is dedicated to a 'sojourner', who dwells in the tents of Kedar.

In this Psalm...
(1) Mesech [Meshech], which is said to be located in the southern Caucasus [adjoining modern day Iran], Meshech is also mentioned in Ezekiel 38.
[The word "Mesech" in Psalm 120, has the same Hebrew spelling as the "Meshech" in Ezekiel 38]
And Ezekiel 38, that is a good read too!
Something about Meshech, and "...in the latter years".     Ezekiel 38:2,8
Something about Magog making war against Israel "...in the latter days".     Ezekiel 38:16
(2) And, Kedar is the grandson of Abram [Abraham], and Kedar is the 2nd son of Ishmael.     Genesis 25:11-13
Can you guess who the descendants of Ishmael are today??
Predominantly, they are those living in Arab / muslim lands in the Middle East.
Is the use of the name Kedar in this Psalm, used as a metaphor for ISLAM, and prophetic for our times?
I believe so [but i can not prove this].

This Psalm is prophetic for our time [i believe].
It is dedicated to a 'sojourner' who dwells with a person who hates peace.
The 'sojourner' says,
"My soul hath long dwelt with him that hateth peace."
"I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war."

And the 'sojourner' asks God to deliver their soul.
Who was the Psalmist 'representing' in Psalm 120 ?
The Psalmist seems to be 'representing' a person who fears God.

Psalms 25:12
What man is he that feareth the LORD? him shall he teach in the way that he shall choose.




Now lets return to the issue of those 'muslims' - WHO ARE NOT [muslims]!

We have two groups of 'muslims' - WHO ARE NOT [muslims]!
We have....
#1    'Kuffar' muslims [deniers of the truth]
#2    Apostate muslims [peaceful muslims]


#1    'Kuffar' muslims [deniers of the truth]
Many, many, muslims are in fact [by the use of their own cultural definition], 'Kuffar' muslims!

"kuffar" = an Arabic word meaning an unbeliever, a person who hides, denies, or covers the truth, an infidel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuffar

And believe me, ISLAM is truly a 'Kuffar' philosophy.
Many muslims who often call themselves Jihadists and muslims, are not.
Why?
Well here, is working example 1 , and example 2 [2 news stories], of real practicing 'Kuffar' muslims [deniers of the truth].

Job 12:16
With him is strength and wisdom: the deceived and the deceiver are his.


Here Job is talking of God.




#2    Apostate muslims [peaceful muslims]
Most of the remainder of the muslim community are apostates ['hypocrites'].
These 'muslims' are not apostates by choice [i.e. by their willing abandonment of ISLAM].
But by definition [the definition of Jihadists, and by the definition ISLAMIC 'scripture' itself].
The problem for every peace loving 'muslim' is that it is not possible for a muslim to renounce Jihad [an obligatory duty], and remain a muslim.

Can a 'muslim' renounce Jihad [violence] against non-believers, and still be defined as being a muslim?
ISLAMIC 'scripture' itself says, no.
As defined by their own 'prophet', in the Koran, these people, who reject Jihad, are 'hypocrites' and worthy of death [see the last link, above]!
This is in the Koran, as spoken by the 'prophet' himself, so it must be true?!?


Now lets return to the words of a different prophet!

This Psalm 120, above, is a warning to all peace loving people who 'sojourn' in this life, within the confines of ISLAM.
The Psalmist asserts that these 'peace speaking' people, who are dwelling within ISLAM, know and recognise very well, the 'nature' of those with whom they 'dwell'.
The 'nature' of those with whom they, associate!

The 'sojourner' says,
"Woe is me, that I sojourn in Mesech, that I dwell in the tents of Kedar!"

"Woe is me"?

Proverbs 12:13
¶The wicked is snared by the transgression of his lips: but the just shall come out of trouble.


So, you who are for peace, come out!
Come out, from among 'them'!

Psalms 84:10
For a day in thy courts is better than a thousand. I had rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God, than to dwell in the tents of wickedness.

Proverbs 30:
5
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

Psalms 11:4
¶The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
5  The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.


See also...

Friday, December 22, 2006
RECORD NUMBER OF EX-MUSLIMS CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS THIS YEAR: A spiritual revolution underway in Mideast
More Muslims converted to faith in Jesus Christ over the past decade than at any other time in human history. A spiritual revolution is underway throughout North Africa, the Middle East, and Central Asia. As a result, a record number of ex-Muslims are celebrating Christmas this year, despite intense persecution, arrests, assassinations, and widespread church bombings.
.....in 1979, there were only 500 known Muslim converts to Christianity, but today Iranian pastors and evangelical leaders tell me there are more than 1 million Iranian believers in Jesus Christ, most of whom meet in underground house churches.
.....One of the most dramatic developments is that many Muslims -- including Shiites in Iran and Iraq -- are seeing dreams and visions of Jesus and thus coming into churches explaining that they have already converted and now need a Bible and guidance on how to follow Jesus.
http://joelrosenberg.blogspot.com/2006/12/record-number-of-ex-muslims-celebrate.html
http://ezekielsgap.vox.com/library/post/record-number-of-exmuslims-celebrate-christmas-this-year.html






And will these people in groups #1 & #2 above, really go to Allah's paradise???
I think not!

And i am fairly certain that even those in the next group won't make it to Allah's paradise!

#3    Real muslims [the remainder of the 'muslim' community]
These are the ones which worry me [and yet i know that they should not].
They are [still, at the moment] few in number.
But these are the 'good' muslims, who are not afraid to tell it like it is - to anyone who will listen!

The
'good' muslims were put here on this earth for The Cause of Allah, and [when the circumstance is  favourable  they will endeavour, as always] to subdue [enslave] or kill, all non-believers who get in their way!
This is the lust of Jihad!
...for blood [terror]!

 ...in the words of Islamism's most influential thinker, Sayyid Qutb,
"the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause,
which continues to thrive on their blood."



James 4:1
¶From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?

2  Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
3  Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
4  Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

and...
A link to a YOUTUBE video, a short [1 min, 44 sec] debate...
Listen to Anjem Choudray's 'compelling' argument, that those in the UK should live under Sharia Law.
His contention is that muslims should have all [worldly] authority in our Western societies,
and also that we should all live under [muslim authority] Sharia law.
Muslims debate Sharia (Islam laws) over England - Sky News
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOfU7wskFdg

another YOUTUBE video...
two quotes from this clip...
"...when we say innocent people, we mean muslims."

"...as a muslim....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
Anjem Choudhury of the Omar Bakri group of jihadists in Britain here appears on the BBC's Hard Talk..... He is entirely ready to condemn attacks on innocent civilians, but he notes that because non-Muslims have rejected Islam, none of them are innocent. Therefore attacks like 9/11 and 7/7 are perfectly justified.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4
this item above, sighted from here...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/2006_12.php#014454



[link]

REDEMPTION
for those
muslims, 'who are not' [muslims]


A testimony to The Truth, from Walid Shoebat, an EX-Jihadi

......"Many times my mother would take me on trips to several museums in Israel, and I fell in love with archeology, and was fascinated with it. In many arguments with her I would bluntly tell her that the Jews and Christians corrupted the Bible. She responded by taking me to the scroll museum in Jerusalem and showed me the scroll of Isaiah, still intact, but there was no one taking pictures of any Bible errors to prove of any corruption and I could not respond to my mother...."

......"The struggle began, I was puzzled; how could the Bible be a fake and corrupted by the Jews if the land I grew in spoke and cried out, as thousands of pieces of archeological evidence surfaced from the land of Israel, confirming the Bible? And the book of Isaiah was discovered in the Qumran caves by a Muslim next town from Bethlehem by the name of Muhammad Deib, who was looking for a lost sheep. From that discovery they found the rest of the Old Testament which confirmed the Old Testament Bible in our hands today with hundreds of verses predicting the coming of Jesus Christ!
I had to read the Bible to know who Jesus really is to find out for myself - and God finally led me to get to the bottom line...."

......"What also helped me is that God led me to discover through my study of the Bible, hundreds of detailed and unique verses concerning prophecies fulfilled to the letter. No man has ever presented such detailed predictions of future events without having more errors than truth. God is the only one that holds the key to future events, and only the Bible has the key; not the Koran which lacks that most important elements: "Salvation and Redemption". I knew at that moment I would have to be a fool knowing all of this and continue worshipping a different God than the God of the Bible - as I really thought with my prayer that God will lead me to the Koran - but that was not the case with me; in fact it was the other way around - I had to give up my pride and be open minded to truth...."

......"I was blind, but with the Bible only I began to see, I mean really SEE!!! With so much Biblical prophecy fulfilled, showing the return of Israel from the grave, the attitudes of Muslims and the world towards Jews that the end time is near.
Man has never changed; he still kills his brother as Cain killed his brother Abel...."

......"Knowing the truth transferred my way of thinking from believing in Hitler to believing in Christ; from believing lies to knowing the truth; from being spiritually sick to being healed; from living in darkness to seeing the light; from being damned to being saved; from doubt to faith; from hate to love; and from evil works to God's grace through Christ. This transformation taught me that without the (true) word of God things could look good on the surface but in the core lays deception. I accepted Jesus the Messiah, as my Lord and Savior, who died for all of our sins; to him I submit."
http://www.therefinersfire.org/walids_testimony.htm


"For whoso findeth me findeth life..."










"...to turn them from darkness to light,"  Acts 26:18


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