.....or, TRUTH is not 'hate'.
....and LIGHT is not 'darkness'.
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2006-Sep-18
Someone i know, V, responded to my, The trouble with ISLAM - part 1 page by saying, "There is enough hate in the world."
I agree.
But i do not see it as hateful to examine, scrutinize, and criticize, [what i see as] the source of much of the hate and violence in the world today.
And i do not see it as 'hateful' to cry , "Wolf!", when i see one!
In my opinion, THE SOURCE [the 'motivator'] of much the hate in this world today, is the Koran and Hadith.
And here for your perusal, is an example of some of those Koran verses.
Probe this issue [the controversy over emerging ISLAMIC supremacism] for yourself!
I happily align myself with the views of the 'RASCZAK' character [in the movie, Starship Troopers], when he says here....
It would seem that many 'Kuffar' in the 'West', when confronted by the actions of violent ISLAM, would rather ignore it, or pretend that the danger and evil of ISLAM does not exist.
Or is their response to violent ISLAM just plain cowardly, to refuse to confront this danger to our communities [and the evil of ISLAM]?
Personally i am not happy to be 'gagged' because to sound an alarm about what is happening, may 'frighten' some tender souls.
And my response to the accusation, that being bold enough to express an opinion is in some way hateful [because i have an opinion which may be different to others], would be very emphatically...
[2006-Sep]
I think i regard ISLAM as a kind of evil schoolyard bully - of the world.
Firstly, is my analogy of a schoolyard bully appropriate?
Now, applying the solution to the problem of bullying, to the real world.
Do you feel that this solution is still valid?
Will such a solution stop the 'bullying'?
And does the world enjoy peace today - because of this solution?
Why not?
[link]
Why are there disputes and regional wars all over the world today?
And it is we humans that make it so!
Still!
Myself, i believe that it is our human 'appetites' which make our world, the way it is.
Can we humans on this small planet, deal effectively with our underlying human nature of both aggression, and unbounded greed?
How?
A perusal of our human history teaches us that wishing that the real world were not a dangerous place is not a solution - for the weak.
Because unfortunately...
In the real world, and from repeated examples in our human history, we have learnt that...
Aggression is not overcome by surrender to it.
And it is very clear that those who do surrender to aggression [or choose to ignore it!], can become real slaves - and or die at the hands of the aggressors!
Look at Darfur today.
And remember, this is happening today, in our world.
What is happening in Darfur, is not from our ancient human history.
The human condition still applies - today.
We call it our 'culture', or our Western civilisation.
And as a social group, we have 'made' our culture, for ourselves, unconsciously, over hundreds of years, over thousands of years.
And we made it as a refuge, a safe place, from those barbarians, 'out there'.
And, yes, we ourselves were also once 'those barbarians', 'out there'.
Throughout human history other cultures have also regarded us as 'those barbarians', as those 'others', 'out there'.
For ourselves [here in the West], slowly we chose to change ourselves, and the way we lived.
Time passed.
And here we are today.
On the net...
And - how - did we 'make' such a successful, and prosperous culture?
I believe, largely, that our cultural 'success' came through our collective decision to live in an inclusive world.
It was our desire to embrace change, and innovation, and new ideas, these things sped us along to our current prosperity and knowledge.
And the more inclusive we were, the 'richer' we have become.
But we did this, this 'inclusiveness' thing, with discernment, accepting some new things, while rejecting others.
[link]
ISLAM and the West.
Do you want to give all of this [including ourselves] to 'barbarians'?
And what would they do with our 'gift' - and with us, once we are inexorably in their power?
Is ISLAMIC culture self-serving, barbaric???
For a clue, look closely here, at how ISLAMIC culture is 'expressed'...
ISLAM's 'philosophy' [accommodating the clear demands of Jihadists] can be summarised as....
[link]
These people [Jihadists] want to, intend to, replace our society, with their own society - literally!
In the UK many Imams are openly telling their followers...
Some comment is required on statements in this story above...
You should understand that when speaking of their aims, Jihadists have one line for their followers, and then another line for the non-believers.
This different 'line' for the non-believers, is so as not to 'frighten the horses'.
This tactic by the Jihadists, is straight out deceit!
This mis-information given to the non-believers, is a practice sanctioned [sanctified even!!] within ISLAM called Taqiyya .
Jihadists regard their 'struggle', to spread ISLAM, as a war against non-believers!
The practice of Taqiyya [deception] against non-believers, is 'justified' as a part of the 'etiquette of war'.
All of these statements below [from the last story above], are more examples of how Taqiyya ['sanctified' deceit] is practiced against non-believers.
Click each linked line here, to find an example that exposes the duplicity and the lies of these statements...
see also, same story as above, a different source....
(2 of 3)
But [of course, say the Jihadists], it is all a Kuffar conspiracy of lies to defame ISLAM!
[link]
and below...
LINKS to YOUTUBE video [highly recommended to view!], for this story, on this page.
Notice in this story above, the Jihadists threats of violence ["hatred"] extend to other [peaceful] 'muslims', who do not share their extreme beliefs and views.
See also, another story...muslim DISSENT CRUSHED
[link]
AND NOW [in this story below] THE JIHADISTS RESPONSE [to the report of the Channel 4 program, in the three stories above.]....
As always, but [of course, say the Jihadists], it is all a Kuffar conspiracy of lies to defame ISLAM!
And every criticism of ISLAM is always, always, always, a conspiracy against Jihadists and ISLAM.
This is yet another example of insincere and feigned ISLAMIC 'victimhood'
Another story on this site with Anjem Choudary speaking of ISLAM's ambitions within the UK.
[link]
In the last story, i am happy to see the statements by Omar Bakri Mohammed [above] "were condemned by moderate Muslim leaders" in the UK.
Well done!
And now perhaps, Ibrahim Mogra can also define for us, his understanding of 'The Cause of Allah', as a muslim [which all muslims are enjoined to undertake].
In the next news report an ISLAMIC 'Holy man', who was jailed for urging muslims to "...kill Jews, Hindus and Americans.", now claims the UK Govt. is acting against his human rights, in wanting to deport him....
[link]
Jihadists kill muslims...
Note that the first attempt by Jihadists [the shock troops of 'peaceful' ISLAM],
to demolish the WTC, was made in 1993
'Jehad is a means to end Tyranny & Injustice!'
The truth is, that in direct proportion to the recent rise in influence of ISLAMIC 'culture' [wealth and influence from oil money!] on the 'world stage', it has been the Jihadists [devout muslims] who are by far the most prolific of killers [by number of victims], of muslims, and non-believers, everywhere in the world.
ISLAM is the new FASCISM.
Jihadists kill muslims...
Jihadists kill non-believers...
Jihadists kill muslims...
But no deaths in Australia, the clerics there just can't get their hands on AK47's & RPG7's...
Can't you just 'feel the love', oozing out of ISLAM?
Again i repeat....
Justice within ISLAM...
Within ISLAM there is [always a promise of!] a 'peace' for muslims [Yes? See the news reports above!!!], ....but within a Sharia jurisdiction, all non-muslims are 'guilty' people, always.
i.e. To ISLAM, all un-believers are deserving of death and/or punishment [for their un-belief].
Within a Sharia jurisdiction non-muslims are always regarded by muslims as legally inferior, [example, and non-muslims must always acknowledge themselves, towards muslims, as being "....in a state of subjection.", see Koran quote below].
If non-muslim nations treated muslims, legally, in the way non-muslims are treated in muslim nations [example], muslims would riot!
'Good dhimmis!'
or, a direct link to the SPIEGEL
article...
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,399263,00.html
[link]
This is the reason... why Democracy is not required [would never be tolerated,] in any majority muslim society.
And the 'position' of the Jihadists is so 'eloquently' put, by the recent bombers of the Iraqi parliament...
This declaration, also explains very clearly, why G'Dubya and the West were doomed to fail, in Iraq!
A lot of people in the West assumed [or at least hoped!] that most Iraqis would be pleased to be rid of the despot Sadam, and would then gladly [gratefully?] embrace a democratic system of government.
i.e. 'Democracy' is anathema to devout muslims.
For clarification of, for elucidation of ..."The right to legislate belongs to God alone,..."
See also....
[link]
Proof?
Read this account [by a rightfully shamed, UK muslim] of life in Saudi Arabia for poor, foreign, black, non-ARAB, muslims...
[all manner of exploitation and abuse, OF muslims, BY muslims]....
And yet, ....I have not seen any street protests BY MUSLIMS, about this issue, in Western capitals, or even on the streets of Jeddah???
Why not???
Grow a spine 'Abdullah's' and 'Abdullah-ess's' living in the West!
Read this report showing how 'good' muslims treat 'other', lesser, muslims - in the worlds pre-eminent ISLAMIC 'paradise'...
When you look closely at the 'morality' of many 'devout' muslims, it is obvious that Allah favours the strong and the rich, and Allah, lets the DEVIL take the hindmost!
Many devout muslims will often castigate Western nations, for being unjust, and corrupted societies.
Because, muslims insist, they are un-ISLAMIC societies.
And, did those 'dishonest, and unjust, Western people' 'pocket' much of the donated Tsunami aid???
[link]
And here, is another 'Saudi' story...
Update [#1] on the abused Saudi maid story above...
Update [#2] on the abused Saudi maid story [from 2005] above...
22 May 2008
Saudi maid verdict 'outrageous'
Human Rights Watch has called on Saudi judges to overturn a decision to drop charges against a Saudi couple accused of severely abusing an Indonesian maid.
A judge in Riyadh awarded $670 damages to the maid, Nour Miyati, but dropped all charges against her employers.
......Ms Miyati, 25, contracted gangrene after allegedly being tied up for a month and left without food in 2005. She had to have several fingers and toes amputated.
New York-based Human Rights Watch called for an appeals court to "impose stiff penalties on the employers, including imprisonment, and payment of significant financial compensation".
Saudi officials have not commented on the report.
.....A prior Saudi judgement, subsequently overturned, had seen Ms Miyati convicted of falsely accusing her employers and sentenced to 79 lashes.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7415290.stm
Yep wonderful Sharia justice, the Saudis were soooooo embarrassed by the case, that full of compassion, they mercifully overturned, .....the maids punishment!
Wouldn't Allah be pleased!?
And it only took 3 years to come to this wonderful, compassionate, conclusion in a Sharia court.
Initially, Ms Miyati had been sentenced to79 lashes, for daring to complain about her treatment, at the hands of her muslim employers [i.e. I say, shame on Ms Miyati for 'falsely accusing' innocent muslims.].
What shocking gall, on Ms Miyati part!
/sarc off
[link]
Didn't this powerless woman [below] understand that she was placing herself into actual slavery, when she accepted 'work' in Saudi Arabia?
24 November, 2003
Work is torture for Sri Lanka maids
Frances Harrison
What makes Kusuma cry is not the memory of repeated assaults but the look on her children's faces when they saw her in hospital.
"After three months, I asked Madam for my salary and she started to beat me with iron bars and wooden sticks," the maid explains of her time in Saudi Arabia.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3204297.stm
Yes, this is NOT a misprint, the victim got 200 lashes, ....for her immoral conduct [i.e. for being 'cat meat' : for being in a public place, and unaccompanied by a male relative]...
And...
In Dubai its official, a French teenager who is sodomised, .....is a 'HOMOSEXUAL'
More 'slander' stories against Sharia and the ISLAMIC paradise,
Many Asian, many predominantly muslim, countries were devastated by the December 26th, 2004 tsunami.
What tsunami aid came from Saudi Arabia, and other Arab [muslim] oil rich states?
Not a lot...
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=tsunami+aid+saudi+arabia+&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
Not hate.
In saying all of these things, muslims are not being hated [by me, or by] by these words, they are being challenged.
....to accept truth.
[link]
More Sharia 'justice', just in a different ISLAMIC paradise...
23 July 2007
Someone i know, V, responded to my, The trouble with ISLAM - part 1 page by saying, "There is enough hate in the world."
I agree.
But i do not see it as hateful to examine, scrutinize, and criticize, [what i see as] the source of much of the hate and violence in the world today.
And i do not see it as 'hateful' to cry , "Wolf!", when i see one!
In my opinion, THE SOURCE [the 'motivator'] of much the hate in this world today, is the Koran and Hadith.
And here for your perusal, is an example of some of those Koran verses.
Probe this issue [the controversy over emerging ISLAMIC supremacism] for yourself!
I happily align myself with the views of the 'RASCZAK' character [in the movie, Starship Troopers], when he says here....
Figuring
things out for yourself is the only freedom anyone really has.
Use that freedom.
Make your own choice, Rico.
RASCZAK - Starship Troopers
Use that freedom.
Make your own choice, Rico.
RASCZAK - Starship Troopers
It would seem that many 'Kuffar' in the 'West', when confronted by the actions of violent ISLAM, would rather ignore it, or pretend that the danger and evil of ISLAM does not exist.
Or is their response to violent ISLAM just plain cowardly, to refuse to confront this danger to our communities [and the evil of ISLAM]?
Personally i am not happy to be 'gagged' because to sound an alarm about what is happening, may 'frighten' some tender souls.
And i cry...."Wolf!"
And my response to the accusation, that being bold enough to express an opinion is in some way hateful [because i have an opinion which may be different to others], would be very emphatically...
V, open your eyes.
For example, open your eyes to a differing perspective, such as the one expressed here, by some courageous Iranian university students...
For example, open your eyes to a differing perspective, such as the one expressed here, by some courageous Iranian university students...
"......if we
keep silent it's easier for them to do the same things to
other people,"
And this view expressed by the Iranian
university students, is i believe, thoughtful advice for everyone
enjoying a life [style] here in the West!
A lifestyle enjoyed here, which is clearly not available to those living in Iran today - an ISLAMIC paradise!
And so, when people suggest that i [and others] should not speak out on these issues, what i believe that these people are really saying, is that...
I should live my life [here], as though i lived in a country like Iran!
My response...
Why don't you just convert now V, to ISLAM!
[link]
A lot of people today, [seem to] wish that 'bad things' in this world would just go away.
But bad things don't [usually] just, go away.
To get bad things to go away we must confront them.
And aggression, sadly, is not overcome by surrender to it.
That way leads to slavery, and more violence.
And if you appease thugs, guess what?
You will get more thuggery, and more violence, not less.
And these are the hard lessons that our grandfathers learnt, in the last century.
Have we [culturally] forgotten them?
It would seem so.
A lifestyle enjoyed here, which is clearly not available to those living in Iran today - an ISLAMIC paradise!
And so, when people suggest that i [and others] should not speak out on these issues, what i believe that these people are really saying, is that...
I should live my life [here], as though i lived in a country like Iran!
My response...
Why don't you just convert now V, to ISLAM!
[link]
This
is what many here in the 'West' today, want to believe...
You do not have to 'struggle' to
maintain, or defend, the Peace
[Justice] you
enjoy.
You only have to desire Peace [Justice], and it will be yours!
.....and yes, you can enjoy Peace [Justice],
even while you embrace, Evil 1 , Evil 2 , Evil 3.
Honest!!!
And here it is.... PEACE IN OUR TIME!
You only have to desire Peace [Justice], and it will be yours!
.....and yes, you can enjoy Peace [Justice],
even while you embrace, Evil 1 , Evil 2 , Evil 3.
Honest!!!
And here it is.... PEACE IN OUR TIME!
And that is our Peace plan for the Middle East,
in his hand, which old Nev is
holding up.
Honest!!!
Honest!!!
A lot of people today, [seem to] wish that 'bad things' in this world would just go away.
But bad things don't [usually] just, go away.
To get bad things to go away we must confront them.
And aggression, sadly, is not overcome by surrender to it.
That way leads to slavery, and more violence.
And if you appease thugs, guess what?
You will get more thuggery, and more violence, not less.
And these are the hard lessons that our grandfathers learnt, in the last century.
Have we [culturally] forgotten them?
It would seem so.
Dictionary
definition:
appease
· v. placate (someone) by acceding to their demands.
– DERIVATIVES appeasement n. appeaser n.
– ORIGIN ME: from OFr. apaisier, from a- (from L. ad ‘to, at’) + pais ‘peace’.
· v. placate (someone) by acceding to their demands.
– DERIVATIVES appeasement n. appeaser n.
– ORIGIN ME: from OFr. apaisier, from a- (from L. ad ‘to, at’) + pais ‘peace’.
This young woman must
die...
Judges in an Iranian Islamic court say so.
Because she... "killed a man [one of three] who had tried to rape both her and her niece."...
http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5183
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazanin_Mahabad_Fatehi
http://www.helpnazanin.com/
Because she... "killed a man [one of three] who had tried to rape both her and her niece."...
http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5183
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazanin_Mahabad_Fatehi
http://www.helpnazanin.com/
[after an international outcry,
Nazanin was reprieved,
and later freed after a retrial]
Nazanin was reprieved,
and later freed after a retrial]
Difficult Images - Human
Rights Abuse
Freedom and Peace come at a price
Iran : A 17 year old girl is sentenced to death by hanging.
Faithfreedom
2006/01/08
Nazanin, 17, was sentenced to death by hanging for defending herself against three rapists.
A young girl who defended herself and her chastity against three male assailants who intended to kidnap and rape her causing injury to one of them who later died in hospital was condemned to death by hanging in an Islamic court in Iran. Nazanin who has seen no more than 17 Springs, all of which under the tyrannical rule of the Mullahs is now facing execution for trying to defend herself and her honor...
........I became concerned for the plight of my people in Iran and her neighboring countries and decided to investigate the cause. I asked myself whether all this is because the gentle and peaceful message of Islam is misunderstood and whether there is a way to revive the pure Islam and save my country. It was in this quest that I realized, to my chagrin, that the human right abuses are not deviations from the true Islam but they ARE teachings of Islam.
I realized that in Islam, Man has no rights! All the rights are reserved for Allah. Man has only duties. Among his duties, he has to pray five times a day, believe in the religion of Allah and submit his will, thoughts and intelligence to him. Any independence from Allah, even at the level of thought is punishable by beating, imprisonment and death.
Freedom and Peace come at a price
Iran : A 17 year old girl is sentenced to death by hanging.
Faithfreedom
2006/01/08
Nazanin, 17, was sentenced to death by hanging for defending herself against three rapists.
A young girl who defended herself and her chastity against three male assailants who intended to kidnap and rape her causing injury to one of them who later died in hospital was condemned to death by hanging in an Islamic court in Iran. Nazanin who has seen no more than 17 Springs, all of which under the tyrannical rule of the Mullahs is now facing execution for trying to defend herself and her honor...
........I became concerned for the plight of my people in Iran and her neighboring countries and decided to investigate the cause. I asked myself whether all this is because the gentle and peaceful message of Islam is misunderstood and whether there is a way to revive the pure Islam and save my country. It was in this quest that I realized, to my chagrin, that the human right abuses are not deviations from the true Islam but they ARE teachings of Islam.
I realized that in Islam, Man has no rights! All the rights are reserved for Allah. Man has only duties. Among his duties, he has to pray five times a day, believe in the religion of Allah and submit his will, thoughts and intelligence to him. Any independence from Allah, even at the level of thought is punishable by beating, imprisonment and death.
When
the truth dies, very bad
things happen.
Tripping - Robbie Williams
Tripping - Robbie Williams
[2006-Sep]
I think i regard ISLAM as a kind of evil schoolyard bully - of the world.
Firstly, is my analogy of a schoolyard bully appropriate?
Can you think of another, a more
appropriate analogy?
Or, is it just that, to you, ISLAM not a problem at all?
And secondly...Or, is it just that, to you, ISLAM not a problem at all?
Can you tell me what is the best way to
deal with such a schoolyard
bully?
Now, applying the solution to the problem of bullying, to the real world.
Do you feel that this solution is still valid?
Will such a solution stop the 'bullying'?
And does the world enjoy peace today - because of this solution?
Why not?
[link]
Why are there disputes and regional wars all over the world today?
The
human condition
It is true that 'out there', the real world is a terrible place, and a
dangerous place - and it
always has been so.And it is we humans that make it so!
Still!
Myself, i believe that it is our human 'appetites' which make our world, the way it is.
Can we humans on this small planet, deal effectively with our underlying human nature of both aggression, and unbounded greed?
How?
The
'real' world is still there
And the real world remains a dangerous place...A perusal of our human history teaches us that wishing that the real world were not a dangerous place is not a solution - for the weak.
Because unfortunately...
In
this world, then, as now...
"Right is only in question between equals, and while the strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must."
Thucydides (460-400 B.C.) Greek Historian
"Right is only in question between equals, and while the strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must."
Thucydides (460-400 B.C.) Greek Historian
In the real world, and from repeated examples in our human history, we have learnt that...
Aggression is not overcome by surrender to it.
And it is very clear that those who do surrender to aggression [or choose to ignore it!], can become real slaves - and or die at the hands of the aggressors!
Look
at Darfur today
2006-Sep-18 MonLook at Darfur today.
And remember, this is happening today, in our world.
What is happening in Darfur, is not from our ancient human history.
The human condition still applies - today.
Annan laments
Darfur 'nightmare'
Tens of thousand of people have died in three years of conflict in Darfur, most killed by pro-government militias.
Tens of thousand of people have died in three years of conflict in Darfur, most killed by pro-government militias.
and on
Africa generally...
"Many
governments
continue to suppress opposition
parties and a free press... Many continue to practise or tolerate
large-scale corruption."Violence
threatens Darfur relief
Annan warns Sudan on Darfur
Sudan has denied these claims and says the problems in Darfur have been exaggerated...
Quick guide to the conflict
The facts and figures behind Darfur's ongoing conflict
Annan warns Sudan on Darfur
Sudan has denied these claims and says the problems in Darfur have been exaggerated...
Quick guide to the conflict
The facts and figures behind Darfur's ongoing conflict
Darfur
update, 28 May, 2007
"Darfur Daily News is a reliable
source of daily news, articles, press statements and valueable
information about what is going on in Darfur at the moment."
http://darfurdaily.blogspot.com/
or, you could get your information from the Sudanese Government Information site...
http://www.sudan.net/govt.shtml
Allah Akbar!.....http://darfurdaily.blogspot.com/
or, you could get your information from the Sudanese Government Information site...
http://www.sudan.net/govt.shtml
Sudan:
Jews behind Darfur conflict
Sudanese defense minister says '24 Jewish organizations fueling conflict in Darfur'
07.29.2007
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3431281,00.html
Sudanese defense minister says '24 Jewish organizations fueling conflict in Darfur'
07.29.2007
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3431281,00.html
When
the truth dies, very bad
things happen.
Tripping - Robbie Williams
Tripping - Robbie Williams
A
paradise - well, sort of...
In the West, over hundreds of years, we have carved out for ourselves
our own little piece of paradise, here on earth.We call it our 'culture', or our Western civilisation.
And as a social group, we have 'made' our culture, for ourselves, unconsciously, over hundreds of years, over thousands of years.
And we made it as a refuge, a safe place, from those barbarians, 'out there'.
And, yes, we ourselves were also once 'those barbarians', 'out there'.
Throughout human history other cultures have also regarded us as 'those barbarians', as those 'others', 'out there'.
For ourselves [here in the West], slowly we chose to change ourselves, and the way we lived.
Time passed.
And here we are today.
On the net...
And - how - did we 'make' such a successful, and prosperous culture?
I believe, largely, that our cultural 'success' came through our collective decision to live in an inclusive world.
It was our desire to embrace change, and innovation, and new ideas, these things sped us along to our current prosperity and knowledge.
And the more inclusive we were, the 'richer' we have become.
But we did this, this 'inclusiveness' thing, with discernment, accepting some new things, while rejecting others.
[link]
Today,
we are giving away our
birthright, here in the West
And now, today, 2006-Sep...ISLAM and the West.
Do you want to give all of this [including ourselves] to 'barbarians'?
And what would they do with our 'gift' - and with us, once we are inexorably in their power?
The 9/11 aircraft
pilots were confronted by men, who
had box cutters,
[....and perhaps, also one of their flight crew as a hostage, with a box cutter at her throat.]
these men told the pilots, that this was a 'simple' plane high-jacking.
The pilots were told that they should not resist,
but that they should submit peacefully to the hijackers demands.
It seems that all of the 9/11 aircraft pilots were persuaded
to comply with the hijackers demands.
The pilots were quickly restrained with electrical ties,
and then the pilots were straight away, held down.
The box cutters were then used, to cut the throats of the helpless, restrained, pilots.
Three of the four hijacked 9/11 planes then proceeded to their 'targets'.
[This above, is one scenario that has been suggested.]
Full Transcript of United 93 Flight Recorder
http://www.challenging-islam.org/library/93.pdf
[....and perhaps, also one of their flight crew as a hostage, with a box cutter at her throat.]
these men told the pilots, that this was a 'simple' plane high-jacking.
The pilots were told that they should not resist,
but that they should submit peacefully to the hijackers demands.
It seems that all of the 9/11 aircraft pilots were persuaded
to comply with the hijackers demands.
The pilots were quickly restrained with electrical ties,
and then the pilots were straight away, held down.
The box cutters were then used, to cut the throats of the helpless, restrained, pilots.
Three of the four hijacked 9/11 planes then proceeded to their 'targets'.
[This above, is one scenario that has been suggested.]
Full Transcript of United 93 Flight Recorder
http://www.challenging-islam.org/library/93.pdf
The Prophet said, "War is deceit."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.268
Allah's Apostle sent a group of Ansari men to kill Abu-Rafi.
.....pretending to be a helper....
.....I drove my sword into his belly and pushed it forcibly till it touched the bone....
.....I did not leave till I heard the women bewailing Abu Rafi.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.264
see also, “We have come in peace, please surrender the planet immediately!”
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.268
Allah's Apostle sent a group of Ansari men to kill Abu-Rafi.
.....pretending to be a helper....
.....I drove my sword into his belly and pushed it forcibly till it touched the bone....
.....I did not leave till I heard the women bewailing Abu Rafi.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/052.sbt.html#004.052.264
see also, “We have come in peace, please surrender the planet immediately!”
Is ISLAMIC culture self-serving, barbaric???
For a clue, look closely here, at how ISLAMIC culture is 'expressed'...
Four
days after he set foot in Australia, the rape spree began. And during
his sexual assault trial in a New South Wales courtroom, the Pakistani
man began to berate one of his tearful 14-year-old victims because she
had the temerity to shake her head at his testimony.
But she had every reason to express her disgust. After taking an oath on the Qur’an, the man – known only as MSK – told the court he had committed four attacks on girls as young as 13 because they had no right to say “no.” They were not covering their face or wearing a headscarf, and therefore, the rapist proclaimed: “I’m not doing anything wrong.”
.....So as MSK committed his acts of rape while visiting Australia, he was simply perpetuating his own cultural heritage. He hails from a society where officially sanctioned sexual violence is commonly employed as a means to enforce the subservience of women.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/readarticle.asp?ID=20535&p=1
see also....
But she had every reason to express her disgust. After taking an oath on the Qur’an, the man – known only as MSK – told the court he had committed four attacks on girls as young as 13 because they had no right to say “no.” They were not covering their face or wearing a headscarf, and therefore, the rapist proclaimed: “I’m not doing anything wrong.”
.....So as MSK committed his acts of rape while visiting Australia, he was simply perpetuating his own cultural heritage. He hails from a society where officially sanctioned sexual violence is commonly employed as a means to enforce the subservience of women.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/readarticle.asp?ID=20535&p=1
see also....
Muslims ARE superior!!!
ISLAM's 'philosophy' [accommodating the clear demands of Jihadists] can be summarised as....
- ISLAM is superior [don't argue, it just is !!!!!!!!],
- Kuffars, & Harbi [non-believers], are only 'animals', and those that have rejected the 'truth' of ISLAM, are worthy of death.
- All non-believers who do not submit themselves, to the
superiority of ISLAM, muslims, must die.
- It is OK for a muslim to do evil**, that good may come [martyrdom for Allah's Cause, terrorise Kuffar, kill Kuffar].
- Anything, any action, taken by a muslim against non-believers is justified [without qualification], because ISLAM and muslims are superior to non-believers.
** Killing Kuffar who reject the superiority of
ISLAM - IS NOT EVIL - to
devout muslims!
To devout muslims, killing Kuffar who reject the superiority of ISLAM, is sanctified in the Koran, and it is authorised [encouraged] by many radical muslim clerics [1], [2], [3], [4].
ISLAM, succinctly - “We have come in peace, please surrender the planet immediately!”
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Media/Homepage/rape9.gif
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/article.aspx?g=406&i=46001
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/articles.aspx?g=406
To devout muslims, killing Kuffar who reject the superiority of ISLAM, is sanctified in the Koran, and it is authorised [encouraged] by many radical muslim clerics [1], [2], [3], [4].
ISLAM, succinctly - “We have come in peace, please surrender the planet immediately!”
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Media/Homepage/rape9.gif
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21502
http://www.middle-east-info.org/gateway/islamvsinfidels/beheadthosewhoinsultislam.gif
http://www.middle-east-info.org/gateway/islamvsinfidels/index.htm
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/article.aspx?g=406&i=46001
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/articles.aspx?g=406
[link]
These people [Jihadists] want to, intend to, replace our society, with their own society - literally!
In the UK many Imams are openly telling their followers...
"Muslims
must grow in strength... then take over."
(1 of 3)11
January 2007
BRITAIN'S NEW PREACHERS OF HATE
By Bobby Pathak
IN a dilapidated mosque, half a dozen awestruck young men listen to a preacher spell out his vision for Britain.
"King, Queen, House of Commons... if you accept it, you are a part of it," says Dr Ijaz Mian. "If you don't accept it, you have to dismantle it.
"So you being a Muslim, you have to fix a target. There will be no House of Commons. From that White House to this Black House, we know we have to dismantle it.
"Muslims must grow in strength... then take over."
A 10-month undercover investigation into home-grown extremism has revealed hard-line Islamic fundamentalism being preached in British mosques.
......Speaking at the Ahl-e-Hadith mosque, in Derby, Dr Mian tells his listeners: "You are in a situation in which you have to live like a state-within-a-state - until you take over.
"But until this happens, you have to preach, until you become such a force that the people just submit to you."
Dr Mian wants to see religious policemen roaming our streets, modelled on the feared Saudi Arabian force.
He says of their strict implementation of Sharia - or Islamic - law: "They send the police and they say: 'Well, if you don't come for prayer, we will arrest you. But if you still don't, then we have to bring the punishment on you - you will be killed and nobody will pray for you.'"
Dr Mian is just one of many UK preachers who've been taught the wahhabi branch of Islam in Saudi Arabia, then come back here to spread the word.
.....But the main preacher at Green Lane is Abu Usamah, an American convert who studied at Medinah University in Saudi Arabia.
He rails against non- Muslims, telling listeners not to believe in the arrests of alleged terrorists in Britain - as non- Muslims are liars.
Green Lane mosque says it is a centre for "interfaith communication and dialogue", welcoming people of all religions and cultures. But in front of a Muslim-only audience, Abu Usamah says that Jews and Christians were "enemies" to Muslims. He goes on to condemn the kuffaar - infidels or non-believers.
"No one loves the kuffaar, not a single person here loves the kuffaar," he rants. "We hate the kuffaar!"
......."Allah has not given those people who are kuffaar a way over the believer. They shouldn't be in authority over us," he tells his listeners. "Muslims shouldn't be satisfied with living in anything other than a total Islamic state."
........Abu Usamah says that he condemns terrorism. But he predicts that an army of Muslims will soon arise to wage jihad - or war - against non-believers.
"They will fight in the cause of Allah. I encourage all of you to be from among them, to begin to cultivate ourselves for the time that is fast approaching - where the tables are going to turn and the Muslims are going to be in the position of being uppermost in strength.
"And when that happens, people won't get killed - unjustly," he threatens.
......And to underline the point, throughout last year, live satellite links were set up to broadcast talks from the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, the country's most senior Islamic cleric.
In the course of one live session, one worshipper asked the cleric, through a translator, if Muslims should establish good relations and forgiveness between religions.
The Grand Mufti slapped him down. "This is not true. Jews and Christians who do not follow the Prophet Mohammed are kuffaar. They will go to hell."
FOR his part, Abu Usamah later said: "Islam allows for any Muslim to peacefully co-exist here in the UK with non-Muslims, even though the UK is not an Islamic society."
He said he had made it clear that it is a religious duty of all Muslims to obey UK law and the carrying out of Islamic law could only be done in an actual Islamic state.
......It said the word kuffaar was a neutral term, and added: "We reject the assertion... that we are influenced by and teach an extreme version of Islam.
"We have no desire or intention to seize power or discriminate against others. We accept the rule of law and we treat our non-Muslim neighbours with respect."
Finally, Dr Mian said that he did not advocate that Islam would be forced upon anyone and said we had not quoted his many speeches condemning terrorism and the killing of innocent people.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/tm_method=full%26objectid=18442715%26siteid=94762-name_page.html
BRITAIN'S NEW PREACHERS OF HATE
By Bobby Pathak
IN a dilapidated mosque, half a dozen awestruck young men listen to a preacher spell out his vision for Britain.
"King, Queen, House of Commons... if you accept it, you are a part of it," says Dr Ijaz Mian. "If you don't accept it, you have to dismantle it.
"So you being a Muslim, you have to fix a target. There will be no House of Commons. From that White House to this Black House, we know we have to dismantle it.
"Muslims must grow in strength... then take over."
A 10-month undercover investigation into home-grown extremism has revealed hard-line Islamic fundamentalism being preached in British mosques.
......Speaking at the Ahl-e-Hadith mosque, in Derby, Dr Mian tells his listeners: "You are in a situation in which you have to live like a state-within-a-state - until you take over.
"But until this happens, you have to preach, until you become such a force that the people just submit to you."
Dr Mian wants to see religious policemen roaming our streets, modelled on the feared Saudi Arabian force.
He says of their strict implementation of Sharia - or Islamic - law: "They send the police and they say: 'Well, if you don't come for prayer, we will arrest you. But if you still don't, then we have to bring the punishment on you - you will be killed and nobody will pray for you.'"
Dr Mian is just one of many UK preachers who've been taught the wahhabi branch of Islam in Saudi Arabia, then come back here to spread the word.
.....But the main preacher at Green Lane is Abu Usamah, an American convert who studied at Medinah University in Saudi Arabia.
He rails against non- Muslims, telling listeners not to believe in the arrests of alleged terrorists in Britain - as non- Muslims are liars.
Green Lane mosque says it is a centre for "interfaith communication and dialogue", welcoming people of all religions and cultures. But in front of a Muslim-only audience, Abu Usamah says that Jews and Christians were "enemies" to Muslims. He goes on to condemn the kuffaar - infidels or non-believers.
"No one loves the kuffaar, not a single person here loves the kuffaar," he rants. "We hate the kuffaar!"
......."Allah has not given those people who are kuffaar a way over the believer. They shouldn't be in authority over us," he tells his listeners. "Muslims shouldn't be satisfied with living in anything other than a total Islamic state."
........Abu Usamah says that he condemns terrorism. But he predicts that an army of Muslims will soon arise to wage jihad - or war - against non-believers.
"They will fight in the cause of Allah. I encourage all of you to be from among them, to begin to cultivate ourselves for the time that is fast approaching - where the tables are going to turn and the Muslims are going to be in the position of being uppermost in strength.
"And when that happens, people won't get killed - unjustly," he threatens.
......And to underline the point, throughout last year, live satellite links were set up to broadcast talks from the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, the country's most senior Islamic cleric.
In the course of one live session, one worshipper asked the cleric, through a translator, if Muslims should establish good relations and forgiveness between religions.
The Grand Mufti slapped him down. "This is not true. Jews and Christians who do not follow the Prophet Mohammed are kuffaar. They will go to hell."
FOR his part, Abu Usamah later said: "Islam allows for any Muslim to peacefully co-exist here in the UK with non-Muslims, even though the UK is not an Islamic society."
He said he had made it clear that it is a religious duty of all Muslims to obey UK law and the carrying out of Islamic law could only be done in an actual Islamic state.
......It said the word kuffaar was a neutral term, and added: "We reject the assertion... that we are influenced by and teach an extreme version of Islam.
"We have no desire or intention to seize power or discriminate against others. We accept the rule of law and we treat our non-Muslim neighbours with respect."
Finally, Dr Mian said that he did not advocate that Islam would be forced upon anyone and said we had not quoted his many speeches condemning terrorism and the killing of innocent people.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/tm_method=full%26objectid=18442715%26siteid=94762-name_page.html
Some comment is required on statements in this story above...
You should understand that when speaking of their aims, Jihadists have one line for their followers, and then another line for the non-believers.
This different 'line' for the non-believers, is so as not to 'frighten the horses'.
This tactic by the Jihadists, is straight out deceit!
This mis-information given to the non-believers, is a practice sanctioned [sanctified even!!] within ISLAM called Taqiyya .
Jihadists regard their 'struggle', to spread ISLAM, as a war against non-believers!
The practice of Taqiyya [deception] against non-believers, is 'justified' as a part of the 'etiquette of war'.
All of these statements below [from the last story above], are more examples of how Taqiyya ['sanctified' deceit] is practiced against non-believers.
Click each linked line here, to find an example that exposes the duplicity and the lies of these statements...
(1)"And when that
happens, people won't get killed - unjustly,"
...the deception made in this case, is to salve
the
conscience of muslims!
(2)"And when that happens, people won't get killed - unjustly,"
"Islam allows for any Muslim to peacefully co-exist here in the UK with non-Muslims, even though the UK is not an Islamic society."
....it is a religious duty of all Muslims to obey UK law
It said the word kuffaar was a neutral term
"We have no desire or intention to seize power or discriminate against others. We accept the rule of law and we treat our non-Muslim neighbours with respect."
Finally, Dr Mian said that he did not advocate that Islam would be forced upon anyone and said we had not quoted his many speeches condemning terrorism and the killing of innocent people.
(2)"And when that happens, people won't get killed - unjustly,"
"Islam allows for any Muslim to peacefully co-exist here in the UK with non-Muslims, even though the UK is not an Islamic society."
....it is a religious duty of all Muslims to obey UK law
It said the word kuffaar was a neutral term
"We have no desire or intention to seize power or discriminate against others. We accept the rule of law and we treat our non-Muslim neighbours with respect."
Finally, Dr Mian said that he did not advocate that Islam would be forced upon anyone and said we had not quoted his many speeches condemning terrorism and the killing of innocent people.
see also, same story as above, a different source....
(2 of 3)
Revealed: preachers'
messages of hate
Muslim worshippers are being urged by radical clerics to ignore British law
Jamie Doward
Sunday January 7, 2007
The Observer
......A forthcoming Channel 4 Dispatches programme paints an alarming picture of how preachers in some of Britain's most moderate mosques are urging followers to reject British laws in favour of those of Islam. Leaders of the mosques have expressed concern at the preachers' activities, saying they were unaware such views were being disseminated.
......Another speaker says Muslims cannot accept the rule of non-Muslims. 'You cannot accept the rule of the kaffir [non-Muslim],' a preacher, Dr Ijaz Mian, tells a meeting held within the mosque. 'We have to rule ourselves and we have to rule the others.'
.....Another preacher says: 'The time is fast approaching where the tables are going to turn and the Muslims are going to be in the position of being uppermost in strength and, when that happens, people won't get killed - unjustly.'
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1984530,00.html
Muslim worshippers are being urged by radical clerics to ignore British law
Jamie Doward
Sunday January 7, 2007
The Observer
......A forthcoming Channel 4 Dispatches programme paints an alarming picture of how preachers in some of Britain's most moderate mosques are urging followers to reject British laws in favour of those of Islam. Leaders of the mosques have expressed concern at the preachers' activities, saying they were unaware such views were being disseminated.
......Another speaker says Muslims cannot accept the rule of non-Muslims. 'You cannot accept the rule of the kaffir [non-Muslim],' a preacher, Dr Ijaz Mian, tells a meeting held within the mosque. 'We have to rule ourselves and we have to rule the others.'
.....Another preacher says: 'The time is fast approaching where the tables are going to turn and the Muslims are going to be in the position of being uppermost in strength and, when that happens, people won't get killed - unjustly.'
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1984530,00.html
But [of course, say the Jihadists], it is all a Kuffar conspiracy of lies to defame ISLAM!
[link]
and below...
Jihadists in the UK...
"....preach hatred...... for Muslims who do not follow their extreme beliefs"
(3 of 3)
"....preach hatred...... for Muslims who do not follow their extreme beliefs"
CH4 - Undercover Mosque
Broadcast: Monday 15 January 2007
A Dispatches reporter attends mosques run by organisations whose public faces are presented as moderate and finds preachers condemning integration into British society, condemning democracy and praising the Taliban for killing British soldiers.
Prime Minister Tony Blair recently described tolerance as 'what makes Britain Britain' but in this extensive undercover investigation, Dispatches reveals how a message of hatred and segregation is being spread throughout the UK, inspired by Saudi Arabia - a country our government calls its principal ally in the Middle East.
Dispatches has investigated a number of mosques run by high profile national organisations that claim to be dedicated to moderation and dialogue with other faiths. But an undercover reporter joined worshippers to find a message of religious bigotry and extremism being preached.
He captures chilling sermons in which Saudi-trained preachers proclaim the supremacy of Islam, preach hatred for non-Muslims and for Muslims who do not follow their extreme beliefs - and predict a coming jihad. "An army of Muslims will arise," announces one preacher. Another preacher said British Muslims must "dismantle" British democracy - they must "live like a state within a state" until they are "strong enough to take over."
.....The Dispatches reporter attends talks at mosques run by key organisations whose public faces are presented as moderate and mainstream - and finds preachers condemning the idea of integration into British society, condemning British democracy as un-Islamic and praising the Taliban for killing British soldiers.
http://www.channel4.com/news/dispatches/article.jsp?id=1066
Broadcast: Monday 15 January 2007
A Dispatches reporter attends mosques run by organisations whose public faces are presented as moderate and finds preachers condemning integration into British society, condemning democracy and praising the Taliban for killing British soldiers.
Prime Minister Tony Blair recently described tolerance as 'what makes Britain Britain' but in this extensive undercover investigation, Dispatches reveals how a message of hatred and segregation is being spread throughout the UK, inspired by Saudi Arabia - a country our government calls its principal ally in the Middle East.
Dispatches has investigated a number of mosques run by high profile national organisations that claim to be dedicated to moderation and dialogue with other faiths. But an undercover reporter joined worshippers to find a message of religious bigotry and extremism being preached.
He captures chilling sermons in which Saudi-trained preachers proclaim the supremacy of Islam, preach hatred for non-Muslims and for Muslims who do not follow their extreme beliefs - and predict a coming jihad. "An army of Muslims will arise," announces one preacher. Another preacher said British Muslims must "dismantle" British democracy - they must "live like a state within a state" until they are "strong enough to take over."
.....The Dispatches reporter attends talks at mosques run by key organisations whose public faces are presented as moderate and mainstream - and finds preachers condemning the idea of integration into British society, condemning British democracy as un-Islamic and praising the Taliban for killing British soldiers.
http://www.channel4.com/news/dispatches/article.jsp?id=1066
LINKS to YOUTUBE video [highly recommended to view!], for this story, on this page.
Notice in this story above, the Jihadists threats of violence ["hatred"] extend to other [peaceful] 'muslims', who do not share their extreme beliefs and views.
See also, another story...muslim DISSENT CRUSHED
[link]
AND NOW [in this story below] THE JIHADISTS RESPONSE [to the report of the Channel 4 program, in the three stories above.]....
TV documentary accused of misrepresenting
UK Muslims
Regional-UK, Local, 1/13/2007
The Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) is accusing Channel Four commercial channel of attempting to foment division and sectarianism among Britain's 1.8 million Muslim community.
A documentary, being screened Monday, goes undercover at mosques to find what it in its advance publicity are "preachers condemning integration into British society, condemning democracy and praising the Taliban for killing British soldiers." MCB said the Dispatches program "mischievously tried to prove that key Muslim institutions are teaching the exact opposite to Islam commanding Muslims to deal positively and peacefully with those around us."
http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/070113/2007011302.html
As always, [according to muslims] there is never any fault with muslims, it is always someone else, .....fomenting trouble against us 'innocent' muslims.
Even, even, even, when the 'fomenting' is clearly coming out of muslim mouths [.....unknowingly being recorded!]. Ha!
Regional-UK, Local, 1/13/2007
The Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) is accusing Channel Four commercial channel of attempting to foment division and sectarianism among Britain's 1.8 million Muslim community.
A documentary, being screened Monday, goes undercover at mosques to find what it in its advance publicity are "preachers condemning integration into British society, condemning democracy and praising the Taliban for killing British soldiers." MCB said the Dispatches program "mischievously tried to prove that key Muslim institutions are teaching the exact opposite to Islam commanding Muslims to deal positively and peacefully with those around us."
http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/070113/2007011302.html
As always, [according to muslims] there is never any fault with muslims, it is always someone else, .....fomenting trouble against us 'innocent' muslims.
Even, even, even, when the 'fomenting' is clearly coming out of muslim mouths [.....unknowingly being recorded!]. Ha!
As always, but [of course, say the Jihadists], it is all a Kuffar conspiracy of lies to defame ISLAM!
And every criticism of ISLAM is always, always, always, a conspiracy against Jihadists and ISLAM.
This is yet another example of insincere and feigned ISLAMIC 'victimhood'
The
Sunday Times January 14, 2007
UK preacher in secret web call for jihad
Abul Taher
ONE of Britain’s most vocal, extremist preachers has been using a false name on a secret website to incite Muslim followers to go on jihad, or holy war, in Somalia.
Anjem Choudary, former spokesman of the banned group Al-Muhajiroun, has posted a statement on a jihadist internet forum telling followers they must join the “divine call of jihad” in the African state.
......Choudary, who uses the pseudonym Abou Luqman, declares in the forum: “The Ethiopians, with . . . support (from the Christian crusader regimes) and backed by illegitimate Israel (Zionists), have violated the blood of Muslims in Somalia. By committing such an act of terrorism the Muslims in Somalia and nearby lands have responded to the divine call of jihad.”
He then reminds followers of their duty to fight jihad: “The obligation of supporting jihad all over the world is fard ayn (an individual obligation) . . . This honourable act must be carried out according to your own capabilities because our beloved prophet Muhammad said strike the mushrik (infidels) with your wealth, hands and tongue.”
The forum has videos and images produced by Al-Qaeda that call on Muslims to join the jihad. Images of corpses of Ethiopian soldiers are captioned “dead kuffar (infidel) bodies”.
......Forum members also analyse British news. In one posting, George Galloway, the Respect MP, is ridiculed for criticising Omar Brooks, the Muslim extremist who heckled John Reid, the home secretary, in east London. One posting says: “What a dog this Galloway guy is . . . (he) can go to hell.”
......When The Sunday Times contacted Choudary he refused to confirm whether he was Luqman or if he knew of the website. He put the phone down.
Choudary, 39, a trained lawyer from Ilford, east London, has in the past called for the execution of Pope Benedict.
Patrick Mercer, Tory spokesman for homeland security, said: “Choudary must be closed down. It’s appalling that the Home Office has not done anything against this man so far.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2546266,00.html
UK preacher in secret web call for jihad
Abul Taher
ONE of Britain’s most vocal, extremist preachers has been using a false name on a secret website to incite Muslim followers to go on jihad, or holy war, in Somalia.
Anjem Choudary, former spokesman of the banned group Al-Muhajiroun, has posted a statement on a jihadist internet forum telling followers they must join the “divine call of jihad” in the African state.
......Choudary, who uses the pseudonym Abou Luqman, declares in the forum: “The Ethiopians, with . . . support (from the Christian crusader regimes) and backed by illegitimate Israel (Zionists), have violated the blood of Muslims in Somalia. By committing such an act of terrorism the Muslims in Somalia and nearby lands have responded to the divine call of jihad.”
He then reminds followers of their duty to fight jihad: “The obligation of supporting jihad all over the world is fard ayn (an individual obligation) . . . This honourable act must be carried out according to your own capabilities because our beloved prophet Muhammad said strike the mushrik (infidels) with your wealth, hands and tongue.”
The forum has videos and images produced by Al-Qaeda that call on Muslims to join the jihad. Images of corpses of Ethiopian soldiers are captioned “dead kuffar (infidel) bodies”.
......Forum members also analyse British news. In one posting, George Galloway, the Respect MP, is ridiculed for criticising Omar Brooks, the Muslim extremist who heckled John Reid, the home secretary, in east London. One posting says: “What a dog this Galloway guy is . . . (he) can go to hell.”
......When The Sunday Times contacted Choudary he refused to confirm whether he was Luqman or if he knew of the website. He put the phone down.
Choudary, 39, a trained lawyer from Ilford, east London, has in the past called for the execution of Pope Benedict.
Patrick Mercer, Tory spokesman for homeland security, said: “Choudary must be closed down. It’s appalling that the Home Office has not done anything against this man so far.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2546266,00.html
Another story on this site with Anjem Choudary speaking of ISLAM's ambitions within the UK.
Anjem
Choudary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anjem_Choudary
http://www.answers.com/topic/anjem-choudary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anjem_Choudary
http://www.answers.com/topic/anjem-choudary
[link]
Muslims in police will rise up, Bakri
insists
By Mike Hirst and Adam Lusher
21/01/2007
Moderate British Muslims in the police, Armed Forces and Civil Service will one day revolt against the system to "crush it from within", according to Omar Bakri Mohammed, the notorious Islamic extremist.
........In remarks almost certain to cause widespread anger among the survivors and relatives of victims, he also claimed that the world was a better place after the July 7 bombings in London. "I believe it is a better place for Islam and Muslims… but not for non-Muslims. What's happening around the world is good and positive for Islam."
The comments were condemned by moderate Muslim leaders. Ibrahim Mogra, the chairman of the Interfaith Relations Committee of the Muslim Council of Britain, said: "This is part of an attempt to create divisions both within the Muslim community and the wider society.
"On the contrary, the more a Muslim police officer becomes a practising Muslim, the more loyal he will become, the more he will realise his duty to his country and the need to contribute to its well-being."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/21/nhate21.xml
By Mike Hirst and Adam Lusher
21/01/2007
Moderate British Muslims in the police, Armed Forces and Civil Service will one day revolt against the system to "crush it from within", according to Omar Bakri Mohammed, the notorious Islamic extremist.
........In remarks almost certain to cause widespread anger among the survivors and relatives of victims, he also claimed that the world was a better place after the July 7 bombings in London. "I believe it is a better place for Islam and Muslims… but not for non-Muslims. What's happening around the world is good and positive for Islam."
The comments were condemned by moderate Muslim leaders. Ibrahim Mogra, the chairman of the Interfaith Relations Committee of the Muslim Council of Britain, said: "This is part of an attempt to create divisions both within the Muslim community and the wider society.
"On the contrary, the more a Muslim police officer becomes a practising Muslim, the more loyal he will become, the more he will realise his duty to his country and the need to contribute to its well-being."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/21/nhate21.xml
In the last story, i am happy to see the statements by Omar Bakri Mohammed [above] "were condemned by moderate Muslim leaders" in the UK.
Well done!
And now perhaps, Ibrahim Mogra can also define for us, his understanding of 'The Cause of Allah', as a muslim [which all muslims are enjoined to undertake].
In the next news report an ISLAMIC 'Holy man', who was jailed for urging muslims to "...kill Jews, Hindus and Americans.", now claims the UK Govt. is acting against his human rights, in wanting to deport him....
Jailed preacher of hate in court battle to
stay in Britain
12.04.07
A hate preacher blamed for indoctrinating one of the July 7 bombers is using human rights law to fight deportation from Britain, it emerged today.
Sheikh Abdullah El-Faisal - a Jamaican-born Muslim convert who urged followers to kill Jews, Hindus and Americans - is due to be freed from prison within weeks after serving two thirds of a seven-year sentence for inciting murder.
The Home Office has begun legal moves to deport the fanatic, who Ministers say is a continuing threat to national security.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23392343-details/Jailed+preacher+of+hate+in+court+battle+to+stay+in+Britain/article.do
12.04.07
A hate preacher blamed for indoctrinating one of the July 7 bombers is using human rights law to fight deportation from Britain, it emerged today.
Sheikh Abdullah El-Faisal - a Jamaican-born Muslim convert who urged followers to kill Jews, Hindus and Americans - is due to be freed from prison within weeks after serving two thirds of a seven-year sentence for inciting murder.
The Home Office has begun legal moves to deport the fanatic, who Ministers say is a continuing threat to national security.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23392343-details/Jailed+preacher+of+hate+in+court+battle+to+stay+in+Britain/article.do
[link]
....ISLAM,
is responsible for the slaughter of more,
and more, victims in Iraq....
is responsible for the slaughter of more,
and more, victims in Iraq....
Psalms
34:21
Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate.
Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate.
Jihadists kill muslims...
18
April 2007
Up to 200 killed in Baghdad bombs
Nearly 200 people have been killed in a string of attacks in Iraq's capital, Baghdad - the worst day of violence since a US security operation began.
In one of the deadliest attacks of the last four years, some 140 people were killed in a car bombing in a food market in Sadriya district.
A witness said the area had been turned into "a swimming pool of blood".
The attacks came as PM Nouri Maliki said Iraqi forces would take control of security across Iraq by the year's end.
As the number of people killed in the Sadriya market bombing continued to climb, Mr Maliki called the perpetrators infidels and ordered the detention of the Iraqi army commander responsible for security in that area.
"This monstrous attack today did not distinguish between the old and young, between men and women," he said.
"It targeted the population in a way that reminds us of the massacres and genocide committed by the former dictatorship."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6560589.stm
Up to 200 killed in Baghdad bombs
Nearly 200 people have been killed in a string of attacks in Iraq's capital, Baghdad - the worst day of violence since a US security operation began.
In one of the deadliest attacks of the last four years, some 140 people were killed in a car bombing in a food market in Sadriya district.
A witness said the area had been turned into "a swimming pool of blood".
The attacks came as PM Nouri Maliki said Iraqi forces would take control of security across Iraq by the year's end.
As the number of people killed in the Sadriya market bombing continued to climb, Mr Maliki called the perpetrators infidels and ordered the detention of the Iraqi army commander responsible for security in that area.
"This monstrous attack today did not distinguish between the old and young, between men and women," he said.
"It targeted the population in a way that reminds us of the massacres and genocide committed by the former dictatorship."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6560589.stm
While
Jihadists
falsely accuse non-muslims,
and the 'West', of being The Great Satan...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Satan
"Far from being the great Satan, I would say we are the great protector.
The United States rebuilt Europe and Japan after World War II,
defeated Communism and fascism and the only land we ever asked for was enough land to bury our dead."
Former US Secretary of State, Colin Powell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Satan#Islamic_Revolution
And while Jihadists accuse non-muslims of the oppression,
and murder, of muslims and of waging war on muslims...
It is the Jihadists, representing 'pure' ISLAM...
that continue the worldwide oppression,
and murder, of muslims and non-muslims.
and the 'West', of being The Great Satan...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Satan
"Far from being the great Satan, I would say we are the great protector.
The United States rebuilt Europe and Japan after World War II,
defeated Communism and fascism and the only land we ever asked for was enough land to bury our dead."
Former US Secretary of State, Colin Powell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Satan#Islamic_Revolution
And while Jihadists accuse non-muslims of the oppression,
and murder, of muslims and of waging war on muslims...
It is the Jihadists, representing 'pure' ISLAM...
that continue the worldwide oppression,
and murder, of muslims and non-muslims.
Note that the first attempt by Jihadists [the shock troops of 'peaceful' ISLAM],
to demolish the WTC, was made in 1993
'Jehad is a means to end Tyranny & Injustice!'
The truth is, that in direct proportion to the recent rise in influence of ISLAMIC 'culture' [wealth and influence from oil money!] on the 'world stage', it has been the Jihadists [devout muslims] who are by far the most prolific of killers [by number of victims], of muslims, and non-believers, everywhere in the world.
ISLAM is the new FASCISM.
Jihadists kill muslims...
Baghdad bombs kill 105
By Claudia Parsons and Alastair Macdonald
Tuesday, January 16, 2007
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Bombers killed 70 people, many of them young women students, at a Baghdad university on Tuesday, one of the city's bloodiest days in weeks.
......Outside the Mustansiriya University in central Baghdad, a car bomb tore through students, most of them women, gathered waiting for vehicles to take them home. A suicide bomber then walked into a crowd at a rear entrance, killing more.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/16/AR2007011600591.html
By Claudia Parsons and Alastair Macdonald
Tuesday, January 16, 2007
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Bombers killed 70 people, many of them young women students, at a Baghdad university on Tuesday, one of the city's bloodiest days in weeks.
......Outside the Mustansiriya University in central Baghdad, a car bomb tore through students, most of them women, gathered waiting for vehicles to take them home. A suicide bomber then walked into a crowd at a rear entrance, killing more.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/16/AR2007011600591.html
Jihadists kill non-believers...
Symposium:
Darfur - Islam's Killing Fields
By Jamie Glazov
September 10, 2004
"Why is it that -- yet again -- another Arab League member is massacring its minority populations? Why is the Western media reluctant to identify the religion and ethnicity of the mass murderers and rapists?"
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=15026
By Jamie Glazov
September 10, 2004
"Why is it that -- yet again -- another Arab League member is massacring its minority populations? Why is the Western media reluctant to identify the religion and ethnicity of the mass murderers and rapists?"
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=15026
Jihadists kill muslims...
Sat,
August 26, 2006
When Muslims kill Muslims
By SALIM MANSUR
The most famous massacre in Muslim history by armed might of the state took place at Karbala on the banks of the Euphrates in 680. On that terribly bloody day, Husayn bin Ali -- grandson of Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, by his daughter Fatima -- was brutally killed and decapitated as he was offering his mid-afternoon prayers.
Husayn's male companions were slaughtered by the army of Yazid, the caliph (Islam's supreme ruler), while women and children in the company of Husayn, including his wife and daughter, were abused and carried as war trophies to the capital of the expanding Arab-Islamic empire in Damascus.
......Karbala is a necessary reminder of Muslims being unequalled tormentors and killers of Muslims. Saddam Hussein as the ruling tyrant in Baghdad was only the most recent incarnation of an Arab Macbeth and the Mongol Genghis Khan rolled into one megalomaniacal killer.
......Iraq's health ministry reported July was the deadliest month for Iraqi casualties since March 2003. The figures provided were 3,438 Iraqis killed -- 1,855 of those as a result of sectarian violence and 1,583 from bombings and shootings carried out by insurgents.
......There has been no organized protest within the Arab-Muslim world or in the West against the daily toll of Iraqi deaths due to this hate-driven insurgency.
Nor is Iraq the only place where Muslim violence against Muslims rages unabated. There is Darfur in Sudan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Algeria until recently, and hotspots in Iran, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia and Nigeria, Uzbekistan, Palestine, Morocco, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon.
How, then, might we explain why Muslim deaths seem only to matter to Arabs and Muslims -- and to apologists of Arab-Muslim politics in the West -- when they occur as a result of conflicts with the U.S. or Israel?
http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Mansur_Salim/2006/08/26/1777155.html
Jihadists - Shiite muslim women kill Sunni muslim women...When Muslims kill Muslims
By SALIM MANSUR
The most famous massacre in Muslim history by armed might of the state took place at Karbala on the banks of the Euphrates in 680. On that terribly bloody day, Husayn bin Ali -- grandson of Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, by his daughter Fatima -- was brutally killed and decapitated as he was offering his mid-afternoon prayers.
Husayn's male companions were slaughtered by the army of Yazid, the caliph (Islam's supreme ruler), while women and children in the company of Husayn, including his wife and daughter, were abused and carried as war trophies to the capital of the expanding Arab-Islamic empire in Damascus.
......Karbala is a necessary reminder of Muslims being unequalled tormentors and killers of Muslims. Saddam Hussein as the ruling tyrant in Baghdad was only the most recent incarnation of an Arab Macbeth and the Mongol Genghis Khan rolled into one megalomaniacal killer.
......Iraq's health ministry reported July was the deadliest month for Iraqi casualties since March 2003. The figures provided were 3,438 Iraqis killed -- 1,855 of those as a result of sectarian violence and 1,583 from bombings and shootings carried out by insurgents.
......There has been no organized protest within the Arab-Muslim world or in the West against the daily toll of Iraqi deaths due to this hate-driven insurgency.
Nor is Iraq the only place where Muslim violence against Muslims rages unabated. There is Darfur in Sudan, Somalia, Afghanistan, Kashmir, Algeria until recently, and hotspots in Iran, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Indonesia and Nigeria, Uzbekistan, Palestine, Morocco, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon.
How, then, might we explain why Muslim deaths seem only to matter to Arabs and Muslims -- and to apologists of Arab-Muslim politics in the West -- when they occur as a result of conflicts with the U.S. or Israel?
http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Mansur_Salim/2006/08/26/1777155.html
September
26, 2007
Iraq: Shiite female militias 'kill Sunni Muslim women'
Sunni/Shi'ite Jihad, women's auxiliary division. From AKI (thanks to Insubria):
Jihadists - Shiite muslims and Sunni muslims in clash over 'holy'
shrine, 17 dead - Pakistan...Iraq: Shiite female militias 'kill Sunni Muslim women'
Sunni/Shi'ite Jihad, women's auxiliary division. From AKI (thanks to Insubria):
Baghdad,
25 Sept. (AKI) - A gang of women who are part of the Mahdi army
militia, loyal to radical Iraqi Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, have
killed a group of Sunni Muslim women in the al-Washshash district of
the Iraqi capital Baghdad.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/018271.php6
October 2006
Pakistan shrine clashes kill 17
Seventeen people have been killed in fighting between Sunni and Shia Muslims over a shrine in Pakistan's North-West Frontier Province, officials say.
The sides exchanged rocket and mortar fire in a dispute over ownership of the shrine to 18th Century figure Syed Amir Anwar Shah in Orakzai tribal region.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5413680.stm
Pakistan shrine clashes kill 17
Seventeen people have been killed in fighting between Sunni and Shia Muslims over a shrine in Pakistan's North-West Frontier Province, officials say.
The sides exchanged rocket and mortar fire in a dispute over ownership of the shrine to 18th Century figure Syed Amir Anwar Shah in Orakzai tribal region.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5413680.stm
But no deaths in Australia, the clerics there just can't get their hands on AK47's & RPG7's...
Can't you just 'feel the love', oozing out of ISLAM?
Again i repeat....
Psalms
34:21
Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate.
Quoting this bible verse is not an expression of hate, this is truth.
There is no, cannot be, peace, without justice.
Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate.
Quoting this bible verse is not an expression of hate, this is truth.
There is no, cannot be, peace, without justice.
Justice for victims, is punishment for
the wicked.
And 'equality in punishment'
[for a muslim and a non-muslim] is anathema within Sharia, within
ISLAM. An example here.
Justice within ISLAM...
Within ISLAM there is [always a promise of!] a 'peace' for muslims [Yes? See the news reports above!!!], ....but within a Sharia jurisdiction, all non-muslims are 'guilty' people, always.
i.e. To ISLAM, all un-believers are deserving of death and/or punishment [for their un-belief].
Within a Sharia jurisdiction non-muslims are always regarded by muslims as legally inferior, [example, and non-muslims must always acknowledge themselves, towards muslims, as being "....in a state of subjection.", see Koran quote below].
If non-muslim nations treated muslims, legally, in the way non-muslims are treated in muslim nations [example], muslims would riot!
'Good dhimmis!'
Koran 9:29
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah,
...nor follow the religion of truth,
...until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah,
...nor follow the religion of truth,
...until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."
Jan 2007
This story of Jihadist TERROR goes on, and on, without end.
It goes on, because our leaders in the West have not [yet] directly challenged....
the cause, the source, and the inspiration, of the Jihadist TERROR ...
ISLAM and its Jihadist clerics.
WHY NOT?
This story of Jihadist TERROR goes on, and on, without end.
It goes on, because our leaders in the West have not [yet] directly challenged....
the cause, the source, and the inspiration, of the Jihadist TERROR ...
ISLAM and its Jihadist clerics.
WHY NOT?
I am reminded
here, of what AYAAN
HIRSI ALI has stated about our
Western timidness in the face of the Jihadists.
Jihadists are resorting to physical violence, and threats,
against individuals critical of the culture of muslim intolerance and violence.
Violence and intolerance, which is being largely ignored by political leaders in the West!
Jihadists are resorting to physical violence, and threats,
against individuals critical of the culture of muslim intolerance and violence.
Violence and intolerance, which is being largely ignored by political leaders in the West!
this link is to the AYAAN HIRSI ALI
quote...
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,399263,00.html
[link]
This is the reason... why Democracy is not required [would never be tolerated,] in any majority muslim society.
And the 'position' of the Jihadists is so 'eloquently' put, by the recent bombers of the Iraqi parliament...
April
14, 2007
“The right to legislate belongs to God alone, and whoever disputes that is an apostate.
The members of parliament deserve only death” [source, 'Al Qaeda in Iraq' ]
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016055.php
“The right to legislate belongs to God alone, and whoever disputes that is an apostate.
The members of parliament deserve only death” [source, 'Al Qaeda in Iraq' ]
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016055.php
This declaration, also explains very clearly, why G'Dubya and the West were doomed to fail, in Iraq!
A lot of people in the West assumed [or at least hoped!] that most Iraqis would be pleased to be rid of the despot Sadam, and would then gladly [gratefully?] embrace a democratic system of government.
Wrong!
The 'The right to legislate belongs to God
alone,...' article above, explains the mindset of many
Iraqis [i.e. muslims].i.e. 'Democracy' is anathema to devout muslims.
Dictionary
definition:
anathema
/@"naT@m@/
· n.
1 something that one vehemently dislikes: racism was anathema to her.
2 a formal curse of the Church, excommunicating a person or denouncing a doctrine.
– ORIGIN C16: from eccles. L., from Gk anathema ‘thing dedicated’, (later) ‘thing devoted to evil’, from anatithenai ‘to set up’.
· n.
1 something that one vehemently dislikes: racism was anathema to her.
2 a formal curse of the Church, excommunicating a person or denouncing a doctrine.
– ORIGIN C16: from eccles. L., from Gk anathema ‘thing dedicated’, (later) ‘thing devoted to evil’, from anatithenai ‘to set up’.
For clarification of, for elucidation of ..."The right to legislate belongs to God alone,..."
see also, ISLAM, succinctly
See also....
.....Islam
will be a peaceful religion when Muslims stop preaching hate, stop
killing in the name of Allah, and stop remaining indifferent to the
violence. Until this happens, we will faithfully document each
of the reasons why this is anything but a "Religion of Peace."
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AboutSite.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AboutSite.htm
[link]
THE BOTTOM LINE
[the truth]
ABOUT ISLAM
Un-ISLAMIC infidels, have more care and love for their pets!,
...than the love that some [self declared] muslims have for their fellow muslims!!!
ISLAM IS A DISGRACE
Un-ISLAMIC infidels, have more care and love for their pets!,
...than the love that some [self declared] muslims have for their fellow muslims!!!
ISLAM IS A DISGRACE
Proof?
read on!....
Read this account [by a rightfully shamed, UK muslim] of life in Saudi Arabia for poor, foreign, black, non-ARAB, muslims...
[all manner of exploitation and abuse, OF muslims, BY muslims]....
And yet, ....I have not seen any street protests BY MUSLIMS, about this issue, in Western capitals, or even on the streets of Jeddah???
Why not???
Grow a spine 'Abdullah's' and 'Abdullah-ess's' living in the West!
Read this report showing how 'good' muslims treat 'other', lesser, muslims - in the worlds pre-eminent ISLAMIC 'paradise'...
April
21, 2007
How a British jihadi saw the light
Ed Hussain, once a proponent of radical Islam in London, tells how his time as a teacher in Saudi Arabia led him to turn against extremism
.......A non-Saudi black student I had met at the British Council accompanied me. “Last week a woman gave birth here,” he said, pointing to a ramshackle cardboard shanty. Disturbed, I now realised that the materials I had seen those women carrying were not always for sale but for shelter.
I had never expected to see such naked poverty in Saudi Arabia.
At that moment it dawned on me that Britain, my home, had given refuge to thousands of black Africans from Somalia and Sudan: I had seen them in their droves in Whitechapel. They prayed, had their own mosques, were free and were given government housing.
Many Muslims enjoyed a better lifestyle in non-Muslim Britain than they did in Muslim Saudi Arabia. At that moment I longed to be home again.
All my talk of ummah seemed so juvenile now. It was only in the comfort of Britain that Islamists could come out with such radical utopian slogans as one government, one ever expanding country, for one Muslim nation. The racist reality of the Arab psyche would never accept black and white people as equal.
.......Racism was an integral part of Saudi society. My students often used the word “nigger” to describe black people. Even dark-skinned Arabs were considered inferior to their lighter-skinned cousins. I was living in the world’s most avowedly Muslim country, yet I found it anything but. I was appalled by the imposition of Wahhabism in the public realm, something I had implicitly sought as an Islamist.
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/book_extracts/article1685726.ece#
How a British jihadi saw the light
Ed Hussain, once a proponent of radical Islam in London, tells how his time as a teacher in Saudi Arabia led him to turn against extremism
.......A non-Saudi black student I had met at the British Council accompanied me. “Last week a woman gave birth here,” he said, pointing to a ramshackle cardboard shanty. Disturbed, I now realised that the materials I had seen those women carrying were not always for sale but for shelter.
I had never expected to see such naked poverty in Saudi Arabia.
At that moment it dawned on me that Britain, my home, had given refuge to thousands of black Africans from Somalia and Sudan: I had seen them in their droves in Whitechapel. They prayed, had their own mosques, were free and were given government housing.
Many Muslims enjoyed a better lifestyle in non-Muslim Britain than they did in Muslim Saudi Arabia. At that moment I longed to be home again.
All my talk of ummah seemed so juvenile now. It was only in the comfort of Britain that Islamists could come out with such radical utopian slogans as one government, one ever expanding country, for one Muslim nation. The racist reality of the Arab psyche would never accept black and white people as equal.
.......Racism was an integral part of Saudi society. My students often used the word “nigger” to describe black people. Even dark-skinned Arabs were considered inferior to their lighter-skinned cousins. I was living in the world’s most avowedly Muslim country, yet I found it anything but. I was appalled by the imposition of Wahhabism in the public realm, something I had implicitly sought as an Islamist.
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/book_extracts/article1685726.ece#
When you look closely at the 'morality' of many 'devout' muslims, it is obvious that Allah favours the strong and the rich, and Allah, lets the DEVIL take the hindmost!
Meaning of, 'Let the DEVIL take the
hindmost'.... http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/let+the+devil+take+the+hindmost.html
For example, when wolves hunt a herd of
animals, the wolves will 'chase' the herd to determine, which
animal[s] are the weakest, and the wolves will then try to 'take the hindmost animal'
[the weakest animal].
Many devout muslims will often castigate Western nations, for being unjust, and corrupted societies.
Because, muslims insist, they are un-ISLAMIC societies.
And, did those 'dishonest, and unjust, Western people' 'pocket' much of the donated Tsunami aid???
.... See
the account of how much of the Tsunami money, and aid, 'disappeared'
[the 2004 Tsunami disaster relief aid
& cash], and how it has emerged that in some cases Tsunami relief
money is, "...falling into the hands
of
radical Islamic groups linked to terrorists".
Also, see this other BBC news report of how children orphaned by the Pakistan earthquake [2006] are being recruited by ISLAMIC extremists - using 'Western' donated, UN quake relief money!
Also, see this other BBC news report of how children orphaned by the Pakistan earthquake [2006] are being recruited by ISLAMIC extremists - using 'Western' donated, UN quake relief money!
[link]
And here, is another 'Saudi' story...
March
25, 2005
Maid May Lose Fingers, Toes after Sponsor Abuse
By Hassan Adawi
JEDDAH — A 25-year-old Indonesian woman who came to Saudi Arabia as a guest worker will have several of her fingers, toes and part of her right foot amputated because of gangrene after being tied up for a month in a bathroom by her Saudi sponsor, who also apparently beat her severely, injuring her eye and knocking several of her teeth out.
....M. Sukiarto of the Indonesian Embassy noted earlier this year that a total of 2,000 housemaids have been repatriated to Indonesia so far this year, with many alleging maltreatment, nonpayment of wages or physical abuse by their sponsors.
http://www.natashatynes.org/newswire/2005/03/indonesian_maid.html
Maid May Lose Fingers, Toes after Sponsor Abuse
By Hassan Adawi
JEDDAH — A 25-year-old Indonesian woman who came to Saudi Arabia as a guest worker will have several of her fingers, toes and part of her right foot amputated because of gangrene after being tied up for a month in a bathroom by her Saudi sponsor, who also apparently beat her severely, injuring her eye and knocking several of her teeth out.
....M. Sukiarto of the Indonesian Embassy noted earlier this year that a total of 2,000 housemaids have been repatriated to Indonesia so far this year, with many alleging maltreatment, nonpayment of wages or physical abuse by their sponsors.
http://www.natashatynes.org/newswire/2005/03/indonesian_maid.html
- Where is Sharia JUSTICE, to punish the [wealthy? the societally powerful?] muslim perpetrators of these crimes???
- Why are these crimes against foreign maids in Saudi Arabia so prevalent???
- Why was the Indonesian Embassy notified about these injuries
to one of their nationals [the injured maid, in the incident mentioned
above], by
a concerned
3rd party, and not by Saudi
officials??? Are Saudi officials so afraid of losing
ISLAMIC 'face', are they afraid that there may
be 'consequences' for
themselves???
- If muslim
women in Western nations were persistently mistreated in such
a way, by non-muslims,
would there be street protests by
muslims in Western capitols, threatening general violence
against non-muslims, even threatening violence
against non-muslims that
were clearly not involved
in any abusive incidents??? Where are the street protests, by muslims, protesting the
societal abuse of [disadvantaged] persons in
ISLAMIC societies??? Are nominal muslims so
frightened of their ISLAMIC 'brothers', the Jihadists, who would consider such
criticism of an ISLAMIC society to be, un-ISLAMIC???
- WHERE IS THE JUSTICE OF ISLAM - for the Weak, for
the Poor, for the Disadvantaged, for the INNOCENT???
Update [#1] on the abused Saudi maid story above...
May
08, 2005
Tortured Maid Changes Statement
A not so baffling update on this story from the Arab News, "New Twist in Nour Miyati Torture Case Baffles All"
Tortured Maid Changes Statement
A not so baffling update on this story from the Arab News, "New Twist in Nour Miyati Torture Case Baffles All"
JEDDAH
— The inquiry report in the case of the Indonesian maid, Nour Miyati,
who accused her sponsor and his wife of torture came as a surprise to
everyone.
Quoting a statement by the Riyadh governorate, the Saudi Press Agency reported on Friday that during questioning by investigators Miyati herself retracted earlier charges that she was tied up and tortured by her employer. Miyati has now been charged with making false allegations against her employer.
Quoting a statement by the Riyadh governorate, the Saudi Press Agency reported on Friday that during questioning by investigators Miyati herself retracted earlier charges that she was tied up and tortured by her employer. Miyati has now been charged with making false allegations against her employer.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/006072.php
I wonder if the Saudi authorities first informed Nour Miyati, or if she herself knew, of the Sharia 'punishment for accusation' ? - 80 lashes.
And did the Saudi authorities provide Nour Miyati with an advocate, during her 'questioning' by Saudi 'investigators'?
I wonder if the Saudi authorities first informed Nour Miyati, or if she herself knew, of the Sharia 'punishment for accusation' ? - 80 lashes.
And did the Saudi authorities provide Nour Miyati with an advocate, during her 'questioning' by Saudi 'investigators'?
And i repeat...
WHERE IS THE JUSTICE OF ISLAM - for the Weak, for the Poor, for the Disadvantaged, for the INNOCENT???
WHERE IS THE JUSTICE OF ISLAM - for the Weak, for the Poor, for the Disadvantaged, for the INNOCENT???
Update [#2] on the abused Saudi maid story [from 2005] above...
22 May 2008
Saudi maid verdict 'outrageous'
Human Rights Watch has called on Saudi judges to overturn a decision to drop charges against a Saudi couple accused of severely abusing an Indonesian maid.
A judge in Riyadh awarded $670 damages to the maid, Nour Miyati, but dropped all charges against her employers.
......Ms Miyati, 25, contracted gangrene after allegedly being tied up for a month and left without food in 2005. She had to have several fingers and toes amputated.
New York-based Human Rights Watch called for an appeals court to "impose stiff penalties on the employers, including imprisonment, and payment of significant financial compensation".
Saudi officials have not commented on the report.
.....A prior Saudi judgement, subsequently overturned, had seen Ms Miyati convicted of falsely accusing her employers and sentenced to 79 lashes.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7415290.stm
Yep wonderful Sharia justice, the Saudis were soooooo embarrassed by the case, that full of compassion, they mercifully overturned, .....the maids punishment!
Wouldn't Allah be pleased!?
And it only took 3 years to come to this wonderful, compassionate, conclusion in a Sharia court.
Initially, Ms Miyati had been sentenced to79 lashes, for daring to complain about her treatment, at the hands of her muslim employers [i.e. I say, shame on Ms Miyati for 'falsely accusing' innocent muslims.].
What shocking gall, on Ms Miyati part!
/sarc off
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In all ISLAMIC societies.
Truth means very little,
....appearances mean everything.
ISLAM, is always the big CON from 'little' people...
http://www.challenging-islam.org/Only%20a%20Bit%20Short.jpg
An Arabic cultural proverb...
"If the truth is offensive, it should not be spoken."
A 3rd century AD, Jewish proverb...
"There is no beauty like Jerusalem,
no wealth like Rome,
no depravity like Arabia."
Devout muslims, ISLAMIST's, Jihadists - ISLAM
Truth means very little,
....appearances mean everything.
ISLAM, is always the big CON from 'little' people...
http://www.challenging-islam.org/Only%20a%20Bit%20Short.jpg
An Arabic cultural proverb...
"If the truth is offensive, it should not be spoken."
A 3rd century AD, Jewish proverb...
"There is no beauty like Jerusalem,
no wealth like Rome,
no depravity like Arabia."
Devout muslims, ISLAMIST's, Jihadists - ISLAM
Shame vs. Guilt
The Western culture, is guilt based.
The Eastern culture is shame based.
For Easterners, everything is about image and how others see us.
The opposite of guilt is innocence.
If your ethos is guilt based, you have an inner police that stops you from doing wrong because doing wrong makes you feel guilty.
If your ethos is shame based, all you care is to preserve your image.
The opposite of shame is honor.
You can do wrong but as long as no one sees it, your image is not tarnished and you can still be seen as an honorable person.
The Western culture, is guilt based.
The Eastern culture is shame based.
For Easterners, everything is about image and how others see us.
The opposite of guilt is innocence.
If your ethos is guilt based, you have an inner police that stops you from doing wrong because doing wrong makes you feel guilty.
If your ethos is shame based, all you care is to preserve your image.
The opposite of shame is honor.
You can do wrong but as long as no one sees it, your image is not tarnished and you can still be seen as an honorable person.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017530.php#c428023
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina70723.htm
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina70723.htm
a comment on a dhimmiwatch page...
It's a shame-based culture.
If you commit a crime and get away with it, more power to you.
But if you do something perfectly legal that makes Mohammedans look
bad, watch out ...
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/018811.php#c473421
Didn't this powerless woman [below] understand that she was placing herself into actual slavery, when she accepted 'work' in Saudi Arabia?
And asking for her wages!
Damned slaves!
They just don't know their place anymore!
Damned slaves!
They just don't know their place anymore!
Kusuma says a Saudi employer burned her with an iron
and hot knife
Work is torture for Sri Lanka maids
Frances Harrison
What makes Kusuma cry is not the memory of repeated assaults but the look on her children's faces when they saw her in hospital.
"After three months, I asked Madam for my salary and she started to beat me with iron bars and wooden sticks," the maid explains of her time in Saudi Arabia.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3204297.stm
Of course, this was only one side of the story.
I'm sure that it will emerge that this woman was fully culpable in her own distress, .....once ISLAMIC Sharia 'investigators' confirm the full facts of the incident.
and...I'm sure that it will emerge that this woman was fully culpable in her own distress, .....once ISLAMIC Sharia 'investigators' confirm the full facts of the incident.
July
15, 2007
Foreign maid faces beheading by Saudis
By Donna Abu-Nasr, Associated Press
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - Rizana Nafeek, a 19-year housemaid from Sri Lanka, is on death row because the baby in her care died while she was bottle-feeding him. If her appeal is turned down, she will taken to a public square to be publicly beheaded.
......Beheading has always been the punishment meted out to murderers, rapists, drug traffickers and armed robbers in Saudi Arabia. Whether what Nafeek did amounts to murder has never been spelled out by courts or other officials, but Saudi authorities, facing sustained criticism from foreign human rights groups, insist they are simply enforcing God's law.
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20070715/NEWS02/707150363
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/jul2007/sril-j13.shtml
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/16/wsaudi116.xml
http://www.asiantribune.com/index.php?q=node/6469
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and...Foreign maid faces beheading by Saudis
By Donna Abu-Nasr, Associated Press
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - Rizana Nafeek, a 19-year housemaid from Sri Lanka, is on death row because the baby in her care died while she was bottle-feeding him. If her appeal is turned down, she will taken to a public square to be publicly beheaded.
......Beheading has always been the punishment meted out to murderers, rapists, drug traffickers and armed robbers in Saudi Arabia. Whether what Nafeek did amounts to murder has never been spelled out by courts or other officials, but Saudi authorities, facing sustained criticism from foreign human rights groups, insist they are simply enforcing God's law.
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20070715/NEWS02/707150363
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/jul2007/sril-j13.shtml
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/16/wsaudi116.xml
http://www.asiantribune.com/index.php?q=node/6469
Yes, this is NOT a misprint, the victim got 200 lashes, ....for her immoral conduct [i.e. for being 'cat meat' : for being in a public place, and unaccompanied by a male relative]...
November
15, 2007
Saudi [Arabia] punishes gang rape victim with 200 lashes
She made her crime all the more heinous by "her attempt to aggravate and influence the judiciary through the media."
Just stay quiet, go along, and things will go better for you, capisce?
....The 19-year-old woman......was initially ordered to undergo 90 lashes for "being in the car of an unrelated male at the time of the rape," the Arab News reported.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/018811.php
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7096814.stm
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=071115145104.rykb7bub&show_article=1
At this juncture, i think that reference to this particular Koranic text is most appropriate,
Saudi [Arabia] punishes gang rape victim with 200 lashes
She made her crime all the more heinous by "her attempt to aggravate and influence the judiciary through the media."
Just stay quiet, go along, and things will go better for you, capisce?
....The 19-year-old woman......was initially ordered to undergo 90 lashes for "being in the car of an unrelated male at the time of the rape," the Arab News reported.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/018811.php
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7096814.stm
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=071115145104.rykb7bub&show_article=1
At this juncture, i think that reference to this particular Koranic text is most appropriate,
to emphasise the falsehood and
absurdity,
that is ISLAM...
"In the name of Allah,
Most Gracious, Most Merciful."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/001.qmt.html#001.001
Most Gracious, Most Merciful."
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/001.qmt.html#001.001
Please remember,
that all of the ISLAMIC 'justice' stories cited here, are brought to you by ISLAM's
'beautiful', Sharia law.
and remember that... "Muslim clerics.....intend to impose
muslim law [Sharia], upon all mankind."
....but it is for our own good, mind you.
And why do
muslims
have that intent?
Because devout muslims claim that non-muslim secular law, is very unjust and very corrupt.
And muslims insist that conversely, a muslim society, is a just society, and is a perfected society - because of Allah's Sharia law. [argument against this contention, here !]
In the UK some young muslim men conduct [themselves, and conduct] Jihad against non-muslim society, through drug trafficking and the pimping of UK schoolgirls.
......yet the inerrant Koran say's that muslims are 'the best' people on earth.
Because devout muslims claim that non-muslim secular law, is very unjust and very corrupt.
And muslims insist that conversely, a muslim society, is a just society, and is a perfected society - because of Allah's Sharia law. [argument against this contention, here !]
Its just that, .....no
muslim can point to such a society,
....here, ....now.
In the UK some young muslim men conduct [themselves, and conduct] Jihad against non-muslim society, through drug trafficking and the pimping of UK schoolgirls.
......yet the inerrant Koran say's that muslims are 'the best' people on earth.
Me?
I just don't believe the lies of ISLAM.
I just don't believe the lies of ISLAM.
Koran
3:110
Ye [muslims] are the best community that hath been raised up for mankind.
Ye enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency; and ye believe in Allah.
And if the People of the Scripture [Jews and Christians] had believed it had been better for them.
Some of them are believers; but most of them are evil-livers.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.110
Ye [muslims] are the best community that hath been raised up for mankind.
Ye enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency; and ye believe in Allah.
And if the People of the Scripture [Jews and Christians] had believed it had been better for them.
Some of them are believers; but most of them are evil-livers.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.110
"Sharia justice.
Now there is an oxymoron."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/018811.php#c473458
Now there is an oxymoron."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/018811.php#c473458
And...
In Dubai its official, a French teenager who is sodomised, .....is a 'HOMOSEXUAL'
December
02, 2007
"MODERN" DUBAI SAYS MALE VICTIMS OF MALE RAPE ARE HOMOSEXUALS
....."They immediately reported the crime, going in person to the local police station. But Alex says the police doctor who examined him that night seemed intent on proving there was no rape, just a consensual sexual act between three men and a 15 year-old gay boy. "
.....16-year-old French-Swiss Alexandre Robert and his mother Veronique were the perfect example of Dubai's cosmopolitan makeup. Alex was living in Dubai when he says he was gang raped at knifepoint, beginning an ordeal that has shed light on how Dubai's justice system treats victims of violent sex crimes.
http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/12/modern-dubai-sa.html
"MODERN" DUBAI SAYS MALE VICTIMS OF MALE RAPE ARE HOMOSEXUALS
....."They immediately reported the crime, going in person to the local police station. But Alex says the police doctor who examined him that night seemed intent on proving there was no rape, just a consensual sexual act between three men and a 15 year-old gay boy. "
.....16-year-old French-Swiss Alexandre Robert and his mother Veronique were the perfect example of Dubai's cosmopolitan makeup. Alex was living in Dubai when he says he was gang raped at knifepoint, beginning an ordeal that has shed light on how Dubai's justice system treats victims of violent sex crimes.
http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/12/modern-dubai-sa.html
More 'slander' stories against Sharia and the ISLAMIC paradise,
Muhammad
one day, ISLAMIC Paradise the
next....
[Saudi]
Woman
Tortured, Killed Maid for Being ‘Lazy’
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1§ion=0&article=97227&d=8&m=6&y=2007&pix=kingdom.jpg&category=Kingdom
Saudi Police Arrest Thousands of... Runaway Maids
http://lostbudgie.blogspot.com/2005/12/saudi-police-arrest-thousands-of.html
http://lostbudgie.blogspot.com/2005/12/saudis-to-gouge-out-more-eyes.html
http://www.iris.org.il/blog/archives/845-79-Lashes-for-Gangrenous-Maid-Who-Spoke-Against-Saudi-Torturer.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_3_55/ai_97347246
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1§ion=0&article=97227&d=8&m=6&y=2007&pix=kingdom.jpg&category=Kingdom
Saudi Police Arrest Thousands of... Runaway Maids
http://lostbudgie.blogspot.com/2005/12/saudi-police-arrest-thousands-of.html
http://lostbudgie.blogspot.com/2005/12/saudis-to-gouge-out-more-eyes.html
http://www.iris.org.il/blog/archives/845-79-Lashes-for-Gangrenous-Maid-Who-Spoke-Against-Saudi-Torturer.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_3_55/ai_97347246
Ye [muslims] are the
best community that hath
been raised up for mankind.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.110
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/003.qmt.html#003.110
Many Asian, many predominantly muslim, countries were devastated by the December 26th, 2004 tsunami.
What tsunami aid came from Saudi Arabia, and other Arab [muslim] oil rich states?
Not a lot...
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=tsunami+aid+saudi+arabia+&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
Not hate.
In saying all of these things, muslims are not being hated [by me, or by] by these words, they are being challenged.
....to accept truth.
Truth. 1 John 4:6
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More Sharia 'justice', just in a different ISLAMIC paradise...
"......Bulgaria's Foreign Minister, Ivailo
Kalfin, speaking in Brussels, told the AFP news agency that the
decision on whether to free
the six was now "purely political"."
23 July 2007